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For those of you that haven't seen, 4chan was hacked:

https://boingboing.net/2025/04/17/4chan-hacked-obliterated-and-unlikely-to-be-back-soon.html

A deadly blow? Will a copycat spring up? Where are the users going in the meantime? Does any of this really matter?

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've seen some in the comment sections on Lemmy, but the brunt is probably going to tarnish reddit, as they've done it already when they werent on 4chan.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago

I love how the last comment on it, if it doesn't come back will be "chicken jockey".

[–] missingno@fedia.io 148 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Outside, hopefully.

Snark aside, 4chan was once hugely influential to internet culture and humor, but that era was long, long, long ago. When 4chan became the breeding ground for the alt-right, that thoroughly infected the site so badly that everyone else was driven off. There is nothing of value left on that site, and its death is a net positive for the world.

Of course other imageboards still exist, but I don't think any of them will ever be as big as 4chan was. I hope that none of them become that big.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was very into /b/ from 2003-2009. It was extremely impactful in my formative years.

I’m glad I left when I did.

[–] DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

'09 was the year the right-wing postbots took over. It was a good time to leave. It's also the year after Paul Manafort received millions of dollars from a Russian oligarch to promote Russian interests in the West, and the same year the Tea Party was formed.

Paul Manafort was also on Trump's top campaign staff in 2016.

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

One of the functions it served was containment... now picture everyone on there spread out on the open net.

[–] BoulevardBlvd@lemmy.blahaj.zone 89 points 3 days ago

Containment was a myth. They've been everywhere else the whole time. They're just forced to keep quiet on sites with moderation. This is only positive

[–] missingno@fedia.io 40 points 3 days ago

As I said in another comment below

'Containment' doesn't work. That was the reason /pol/ was created, but all that did was rapidly radicalize the userbase, which then spread back to the other boards.

Giving them a dedicated space to radicalize people doesn't mean that the people who get radicalized will never leave that space. Because not only did it spread back to the other boards, it spread outside 4chan. The rise of the alt-right can be directly traced back to Steve Bannon recognizing 4chan as the ideal target to start radicalizing users there. And now look at where the alt-right is today. It's not an exaggeration to say that this is a large part of how we got Trump.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

The veil's been lifted! It's a class-K restructuring event!

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 days ago

Even if it is over a decade late, we should pour one out for old 4chan. It was never a great place, but what happened to it is a huge shame. If this really is the death knell, I wanna remember it as the weird anarchic slice of the Internet it was, rather than the Nazi bar it got turned into.

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 61 points 3 days ago

4chan died over a decade ago. What has been nuked there was its rotting carcass plastered with Nazi and MAGA shit.

It should never return.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 19 points 2 days ago
[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 61 points 3 days ago (8 children)
[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Not Lemmy, eh? Are you sure? You could be great, you know. It's all here in your head. And Lemmy can help you on your way to greatness, there's no doubt about that. No?

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[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

lol thinking they were not already here

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 52 points 3 days ago (3 children)

A deadly blow?

I hope so.

Will a copycat spring up?

History says yes, but if a loving god truly exists, one won't.

Where are the users going in the meantime?

Hopefully outside.

Does any of this really matter?

Only if they bring their bullshit to the fediverse.

[–] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I think Lemmy is easier to manage getting rid of any BS. Even if they do bring BS to Lemmy, they won't last.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

And it’s easy to block them and their communities

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

History says yes, but if a loving god truly exists, one won’t.

Trump is president. Clearly there is no loving god.

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

There is fchan which is technically fediverse, but it luckily uses a different protocol.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

I know it's a tiny minority of their culture over there but I will miss seeing screenshots of their wholesome/poignant greentexts. I hope some of those robots move on and turn out ok

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There’s an entire instance full of them here. It’s called HilariosChaos. Edgelords abound!

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're not 4channers and I find Alice the instance amin quite nice.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Do you have any examples? We can just agree on this one if true lol

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 17 points 3 days ago

Hopefully not here

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

The sharty and other imageboards. It's virtually impossible for them to exist on fedi due to moderation, however they will probably create new chan instances, especially since I've seen them talk about lemmy before

They won't join übercorp social media because they already look down upon it + half of them will be banned in less than a week

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Welcome to lemmy you filthy animals lol

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was the person who wrote all the posts, now looking for freelance work.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 15 points 3 days ago

Aha! You were the hacker known as "Four Chan"!

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

Lemmy maybe

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Aren't there similar websites like 8chan that serve the same purpose? I may be out of the loop but won't they migrate there?

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Why would it go away completely? Why wouldn’t they plug the hack and continue on as they were before? Getting hacked doesn’t typically kill a service unless there was data deleted and no recovery option available.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 12 points 3 days ago

It's unclear if they even can plug the many security vulnerabilities that are now public information. The leaked source code reveals that the site hasn't been updated at all since the new owner took over.

[–] drkt_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago

The current owner is not and has not ever been interested in maintaining it. He bought it to squeeze it of its worth and now that it's suddenly going to cost a lot of money to bring back he probably just won't.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 9 points 3 days ago

My understanding from the articles I read is that the whole platform ran on PHP 5.5, and porting from a version that old to current is no small task.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One possible reason I've read is that the people moderating it have had their identities leaked, so imagine being the person responsible for banning 4chan users and now also they know who you are, seems like a very unappealing thing to volunteer for.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago

They're on the clearnet. Their identities are already known..

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[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

What will happen to greentext groups etc?

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there exists tons of image boards already, if one dies people move into others.

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