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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago

I think this so much less convincing than selling AI as a replacement for skilled labor, not as a way to intentionally deskill actual software engineers.

Capitalism already has a way of preventing you from making your own commodities - you sell your time, and the less they pay you for it relative to how much you need to live, the less time you have for yourself to put towards self sufficiency. We don't have many FOSS products, not because nobody has the knowledge or skill to make them, but because nobody has the time to make them.

There are plenty of reasons to hate corporate-owned AI products, we don't need to be hallucinating new ones.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

TBH I always felt the same way with "Blueprint" programming where you plug nodes into nodes.

To this day never once used them.

[–] YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

It's basically the same as programming, just very indirect and slow- but it still requires you to fundamentally understand the concepts of the 'modules' you are using. Vibe coding has borderline random elements.

[–] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This also applies to writing emails. Some folks were bad enough at it before. Now, they'll never learn, and can't even proof read what the AI wrote....so their emails aren't any better now, than they were before.

[–] Sybilvane@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I struggle so much with this. People were already bad at reading emails and following instructions (e.g. ask them to answer 4 questions which I have helpfully listed below, in bold, and they answer the first one and call it a day) but now they just let the a.i. handle it. So instead of not getting answers, I get incorrect and unreviewed answers that just sound like they might be right.

Then of course when I do the work, and it turns out to be completely useless because it was based on bad information, and it needs to be completely redone. That means wasted hours of time and productivity for me with nothing to show for it. All because someone else wanted to save 5 minutes.

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

Are there seriously scientists who think AI assistants are good enough for the job?

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It took me way too long to get what deskilling means

my best of is: Desk-illing, des-killing, or deskil-ling

[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

it was likely a typo for desk-killing

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[–] PeteWheeler@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Yeah definitely not our profit driven models.

AI can do it cheaper... so just have the AI do it. Its that simple, people really don't like it when things are so simple but can't do anything about it. So they just make shit up like this.

He still got a point, but premise is pretty ridiculous.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I use copilot at work. the predictive generation is pretty good i.e you start writing a for loop and it finishes it for you with all the variable names used correctly (most of the time). This also has the added benefit of making you name your variables clearly. the better they are the better the predicitions will be. i wouldnt trust it to do more than that though

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[–] YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

A friend of mine wanted to make an incremental game. I told them "hey that's a pretty good project to learn programming with" but they insisted on using an LLM. Then they proudly showed me what they got so far, it was a decent looking singular html page, but without any game logic whatsoever. Most of the code was just stylesheets - and even those had some questionable things going on lol

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This has been happening for quite a while. Do you know how to work a sewing machine? Have you ever repaired your clothes? Oh well, back to Walmart.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sewing machines don't just output whatever they think you want to wear today lol

[–] obstbert@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Now that would be amazing

[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago

yeah, or cooking good point, that's very worrisome

[–] vane@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I still think that local models in places without internet are better then offline documentation.

[–] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 day ago

I use ai to become a better coder, not to replace me.

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