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[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 116 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I wish the keeper of many fond childhood memories wasn't a company I fervently wish would die in a fire.

[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago

The gulf between Nintendo’s legal/corporate office and the game designers/developers is staggering to me

[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's sad but they've been like this since the get-go. They sued Galoob for the Game Genie (and lost), and they sued Blockbuster for copying manuals so that people could have the manual to review when they rented games (and won). Nintendo has always been excruciatingly aggressive about protecting and policing their copyrights and IP, even when they're dead wrong.

This is not an attempt to justify what they're doing, just to point out that it's unfortunately nothing new.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Nintendo is why DRM is a thing. The NES CIC lockout chip avoided the 2600's shovelware problem... and created an abusive monopoly, that generation.

Nintendo secretly had color screens developed for the upcoming Game Boy, switched to black & white, and left the screen manufacturer hung out to dry. Which is why the Game Gear and Lynx coincidentally have the same resolution.

Nintendo was politely informed by SNK that they'd be making their own handheld. A year later the Game Boy Color dropped as a secret fuck-you to the Neo Geo Pocket.

Nintendo informed Sony they had cancelled their SNES-CD add-on by announcing an SNES-CD add-on made by Philips. At the Consumer Electronics Show. After Sony's big presentation about their SNES-CD add-on.

[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nintendo informed Sony they had cancelled their SNES-CD add-on by announcing an SNES-CD add-on made by Philips. At the Consumer Electronics Show. After Sony’s big presentation about their SNES-CD add-on.

Sony really ended up winning with that one in the long run, though.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Only through Ken Kutaragi's intense spite.

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[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll never understand why Nintendo hates their fans so much. Just because Japanese copyright law is shitty, doesn't mean that you have to be equally as shitty.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is a law forcing Nintendo to enforce copyright. They willingly choose to be assholes.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Because of international trade agreements, Japan’s copyright and patent laws are not meaningfully or substantively different than any other neoliberal country’s. That is an excuse circulated by apologists. Nintendo’s aggressive, litigious, anti-consumer tactics are purely a matter of company policy.

[–] shani66@ani.social 52 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Never give Nintendo your money, they are devils with subpar games.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

trying to justify thier games as AAA pricing. subtier console with subtier gaming. especially around pokemon games. gen 1-6 were good, but everything after that was just a disaster.

[–] TaiCrunch@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's finally gotten way out-of-hand, even for me. Gen XI will be the first main series Pokémon games in 30 years I won't be pre-ordering, let alone even buying. First-party Switch games were already way too expensive, rarely ever going on sale, and now we may be moving to an $80 standard. And it seems the main selling point of the Switch 2 in the latest Direct was a bunch of ports. At that price point, there's no reason not to just get a Steam Deck and sail the high seas for first-party titles. At least Valve won't brick my device if I hurt their feelings.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

i dint buy it at the time because it was switch 400+60+ DLC, and nintendo internet+ pokemon perpetual cold storage, and then i heard every game got worst and worst. and it was difficult enough to put homebrew on the 3ds when that was available, because nintendo was constantly updating to break the cracks.

and GEN 6 was already kinda dumbed down , but had enough content to keep going.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Last gen was a bunch of ports too. New games didn't start popping off until middle of the consoles lifespan.

[–] H1jAcK@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm curious how close this guess is, based solely on the generations you mention as good; are you 28?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

i stopped playing the console like 5 years ago. just had no interest as i found other games to play. also play the free versions of pokemon cards online.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, post gen-6 is where i stopped. It felt like the games were really dumbed down, and they leaned way too hard into 3d graphics.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

like i was literally laughing at post-swsh graphics, the models were randomly stretching, or there is an incomplete map, or the clouds are all terrible pixels. MASUDA clearly hates pokemon now. i think the biggest reasons was omitting most pokemon from the future games. people still bought the game, and they were complaining about it on reddit.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Never give Nintendo your money

yes.

they are devils

yes.

with subpar games

no. There's good reasons why nintendo games are the most pirated games.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Subpar for the price they are asking then?

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I can agree with that.

[–] RetroGoblet79@eviltoast.org 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is why more games should openly embrace modding.

A "we're legally not allowed to do this gameplay mechanic" writeup and let the community unofficially provide it.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

There are a couple games where it's an open secret that the "community" modders were the devs

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Plenty of indie games on steam that have workshop support usually have a handful of mods from a dev. Usually qol stuff or just fun things to change.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

I know at least one of the factorio devs released a few mods of things that didn't really fit with being in the base game but are interesting mods, like MIRVs. But that isn't even a secret, it's published under the same name.

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[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 months ago

Pes has relied on players to recreate real teams they don't have licensing for for years

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Make game open source

What do now Nintendo?

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The same thing they've done with lots of emulators, tell whoever is hosting the source to cease and desist or face a lawsuit.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We need distributed source control

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

As in, distributed storage a la I2P or Freenet, so that there is no central company or person to send copyright threats to

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Once it's out in the wild there's not much they can do

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

pokemon billions dollar name, plus thier side business which is the card game which also billions dollar market too, but they do nothing of scalpers and collectors/investors(tcp japan)

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Nintendo has sued multiple open source projects and their creators into oblivion.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Fuck it, we're doing Pikachu."

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The monkey paw's finger curls...there was much rejoicing.

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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Love it. Just hope big daddy N doesn't go after them too.

[–] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is Nintendo the new "N-word"?

[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Reporting for using the N slur

^(jk)^

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Racists soon trying to fit the N-word into Nintendo in 3...

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)
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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

My shitty no-stakes conspiracy theory is that said modders are comprised of anonymous Palworld devs who are as salty about the removal as we are, and who know the code better than anyone.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As for a restoration of throw-to-release pals, there is a mod currently available along those lines, but it doesn’t work exactly as Palworld used to before last year’s patch (it doesn’t include the ball-throwing animation, rather summons the Pal where you're currently looking).

Wouldn't surprise me if they're going full "avoid Nintendo issues" mode and make one mod for spawning, another for throwing animation and potentially potentially a third sacrificial one to make them work together. Iif you don't make the second compatible with "all" items and don't use the ball as an example screenshot.

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