I googled "Big Naturals". Result number 16 was this:
this post was submitted on 04 Jun 2025
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Should've been number 1.
This actually got a chuckle out of me. Prob the first number related joke I've laughed at.
Actually, those are not the same. Natural numbers include zero, positive integers do not. She shoud definately use 'big naturals'.
Edit: although you could argue that it doesnt matter as 0 is arguably neither big nor large
Natural numbers only include zero if you define it so in the beginning of your book/paper/whatever. Otherwise it's ambiguous and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Fair enough, as a computer scientist I got tought to use the Neumann definition, which includes zero, unless stated differently by the author. But for general mathematics, I guess it's used both ways.
Natural numbers include zero
That is a divisive opinion and not actually a fact
Yeah, it's a matter of convention rather than opinion really, but among US academia the convention is to exclude 0 from the naturals. I think in France they include it.
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Big naturals in fact include two zeroes:
(o ) ( o)
Spaces and parens added for clarity
Depends on how you draw it.
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Gandalf's large positive integers
Like that?
Oh wow. Do we have a lemmy community for that?
be the change you want to see!
Large nonnegative numbers*
If they're big the zero is skipped anyway
Just write it bigger.
Thanks for the comment - - I will fight for recognizing zero as a natural number
Zero indexed gang, yes
If your array doesn't start at zero I'm not sure we can be friends.
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Also in an aqueous environment, they become floating point values.
Don't get me started on the unnatural and supernatural numbers.
Big Naturals Are More Pronounced
ftfy
I don't care if they're big, as long as they're real
I don't care if they're real, as long as I can manipulate them
They're Real, and they're fantastic.
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big badonka-donkadonks
Natural Numbers ≠ Integers though.
In spite of that, I'm chuckling. Math can be funny sometimes 😂
Positive integers are (a subset of) natural numbers
Why a subset? They're the same thing right? I guess it could be about the zero?
you answered your own question
Well what I learned in school was that zero was both positive and negative. I knew some people consider the natural numbers don't include zero, but I didn't know for some zero isn't even positive.
it is neither positive nor negative
I knew a physicist who considered 0 negative if she arrived at 0 coming from negative source numbers and positive if coming from positive sources.
Something something sampling rate
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Why, would anyone at all think about something else?
/s
That's true OP, "big naturals" are indeed very pronounced.
I just say “big’uns”
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