You can try Xitter.
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Go to patriots.win which is where members of "r/the_Donald" went when Reddit shut them down. Or just get xitter account.
We sure as shit don't need any of that shit here.
There's probably some, but keep in mind that your instance has to be federated with them and lemmy.world generally defederates a lot of the more extreme instances (plus a few benign but potentially illegal instances, since the admins don't want legal trouble.)
That said, Lemmy historically is rather extreme "left" (if you can call it that lol) so much so that the .ml of lemmy.ml stands for Marxist-Leninst. That starting point kinda makes the rest of us the conservatives of the community.
If you want to feel challenged, look into who we defederate from. Hexbear, lemmygrad, beehaw, etc. I'm sure those rabbit holes will be new to you, although heaven help you lol
You can definitely call Marxism and Anarchism Left. Leftism starts at anti-Capitalism, and both Marxism and Anarchism make up the largest and most significant umbrellas of Leftism.
That starting point kinda makes the rest of us the conservatives of the community.
It makes the rest of us the liberals, certainly. But a lot of the turf battles between .world and .ml tend to be on US political orthodoxy running up against any other country's reported histories. People getting sucked back into the argument over whether the Hungarian Revolt of 1956 was worth defending, for instance, is the baseline for what defines a "Tankie" (evil Khruschevist authoritarian villains) versus "A rational centrist" (not all CIA-backed color revolutions are bad, people!)
So it's less a question of right versus left and more a question of nationalism versus internationalism.
If you want to feel challenged, look into who we defederate from.
One of the benefits of .world is that admins generally don't bother outright banning anyone for their political views, even when they're taken as "extreme". You can head over to these other sites, but don't expect to post very long before you're given the boot.
Admittedly, Reddit's political subs were much the same. Easiest thing in the world is to say something on a political sub of any flavor that will get you banned, whether its /r/progressive or /r/libertarian. If that's the kind of sub someone is looking for...
But I don't really see them as challenging so much as insular. Structurally closed communities where appealing to the whims of the moderators is more important than any actual ideological tenant.
Lemmy is the tolerance paradox in action.
If you want societaly disenfranchised people to have a voice, you need to silence those who can use their voice to silence them.
You can also use the nazi bar story to explain why there are no conservatives on lemmy. I know not all conservatives are nazis but there you have the bad apples phenomenon to counter. Just a little mysoginism, sexism, racism, is already too much.
They have all been chased off or banned mostly in response to and protection of this refuge for diversity.
i'm inclined to believe the average lemmy user is much less likely to fall for those stuff tbh.
Lemmy.world leans right overall, so I'd say you're already there. If you want far-right, there are very few areas on Lemmy, so you'd be better off peering into Reddit for that.
There are probably plenty of right wing instances you're not federated with, but now that mainstream social media has been overtlu taken over by fascists there's not as much reason for it. When I first heard of Lemmy I remember there were a shit ton of far fight instances because that's who was getting kicked off of reddit back then. Now, though, the owner of Twitter is straight up doing seig heils in front of crowds and you can get banned on reddit if you criticize him too much. So if you're a conservative, why would you bother using a weird open source platform like Lemmy when the big dogs are all in complete agreement with your beliefs and all your heroes are on those platforms, especially when your ideology is based on hero worship?
TL;DR if you're a right winger you're just on the mainstream platforms or on an explicitly right wing alternative like Truth Social
Ha, good luck. They don't care about facts. There's some 2 dozen accounts run by maybe 2 or 3 people tops and they're not really accepting outside input.
Yeah I'm aware, it's more of an exercise in research for me. They send me down some crazy rabbit holes and it's just super interesting a lot of the time.
The only thing I find them useful for is testing my patience.
Lemmy.usatoday or whatever is a conservative instance
I might be able to show you, but what do you mean by conservative?
Like I said, I miss r/Conservative and r/conspiracy the most from reddit
Plenty of conspiracy theorists on Lemmy just mention that Luigi Mangione killed Brian Thompson or Trump falling out with Elon Musk and they come out of the woodwork
Yeah but they're mostly "sane" conspiracy folks. I miss the absolute bat shit insane ramblings from reddit haha
If you want to see unhinged shit just make a new tik tok account and look up the word adrenochrome. The algorithm will get you real quick.
Maybe I'll find us a conspiracy little e-hole, I miss it too🥲
Not OP, but interested in right-leaning communities that aren't pants-on-head insane, just like I am interested in left-leaning communities with a similar constraint. /r/conservative generally isn't bad (I find they tend to be a LOT more level headed than /r/politics, for example) but things like /r/the_donald or whatever it was called is way too out there for my tastes.
But what do you mean by "conservative"?! White nationalist? Pro capitalist? Neoliberal?
None of the above really; I'd consider those more far-right and not at all interested in. I'm talking about people aligned with ideas like smaller government, government accountability (particularly with respect to spending), the combination of personal responsibility and freedoms, etc.
Conservative politics hasn't meant any of that for a very long time. I think you need to find a new term to use if you want to be able to not have to explain this every time you ask for conservative communities to hang around in.
Also, none of that is necessarily right leaning (anarchy covers very similar ground, but obviously for extremely different reasons), so it doesn't entirely answer the question of what kind of right leaning you are looking for.
you could be right; I’m not great with keeping up with the right terminology. I mentioned in another reply that what I’m really after is finding the quieter “middle 80%”; the problem is that the nutters on either end get all the media attention and ratchet up the rhetoric because they’ll do anything to keep the attention.
There were some, but as others have said, they aren't popular around here. There was one instance but I think they moved to nostr?
isn't that shit site that used to be shitty Twitter, now just a right sided echo chamber for wannabe alphas?
you could find them there or that other unspeakablly dim t RU th dot social
I must admit I do miss r/conspiracy, the stupidity there was something to behold.