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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Pakistan saying they would nuke Israel if Israel nuked Iran probably was the only thing holding Israel back from pulling the trigger. If there was ever a group of people who should never be permitted to have nuclear weapons, its the Israelis.

[–] doctortofu@piefed.social 184 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Trump just desperately wants to nuke something. Anything's fine, he just wants to drop a nuclear bomb on stuff. I mean, he was floating nuking a goddamned hurricane before.

He's like a toddler that sees a big red button and just HAS to push it, because it's just there and it's so big and red and it will make things go boom!

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 31 points 3 days ago (4 children)

While you're not wrong, in general, I personally think this might be an excuse for us not to bomb the place. Trump has got himself caught in a civil war between his own cult members, and he hates not being at the center of attention and obeyed unconditionally. This might be a way to placate both sides. He can tell the pro-war side that he can't use a weapon that'll do the job, and he can tell the no-war side that he's not gonna nuke it.

That way the Orange Jackass can wrench the conversation back to about how "he's more peaceful than anyone's ever seen before" or whatever bullshit he decides to vomit up.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 53 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You're giving him waaay too much credit.
All he does is rant and complain, while doing what the Heritage Foundation people tell him to sign.

It isn't anything more complicated than that.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This. His fan base thinks he's playing 5D chess, while the liberals think he's playing chess, but in reality he's being allowed by his babysitters to throw checker pieces everywhere to divert attention.

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[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 92 points 3 days ago
[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well, they did it. Now Iran will lash out and close the straits of Hormuz. It's the only threat that they can carry out now...

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...and we'll sink the ships, and have dogfights over the sea, and it will escalate, and hello World War 3!

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was hoping they could wait a few more years so I'd be too old to be drafted, but looks like I'll be twerking in Tehran

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, resist the draft. Drafts are evil, do ANYTHING to avoid fighting a MAGA War. My son is the perfect draft age, and he is NEVER going to fight for MAGA. If they want it so bad, the MAGAs can sacrifice their own.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Get a doctor to say your son has bone spurs.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

US Reportedly Assesses It Would Need to Drop Nuclear Bomb to Destroy Iran Nuclear Facility

Well, they did it.

No they didn't. It was conventional bombs, not nuclear.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Trump is as dumb as a sack of hammers, and he’s looking for a nail. He just wants to treat nukes like playthings, a rich man’s flex. Just to say he did. Like a canned trophy hunt of a Lion from the safety of helicopters and trucks with everyone around him at his paid service. No risk, no personal jeopardy. Drop the bomb for lols just to experience the fact he did it and will brag about it.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 8 points 2 days ago

If he drops a nuke, he instantly becomes the most dangerous man in history, they only guy willing to use a nuke for normal war purposes (for which there are nearly infinite alternative options), and to flex his ego (which has no limit). Now when he threatens a country, they will have to believe him, because he's done it before.

With that in mind, I would think nearly every nation with a highly organized covert intelligence service would decide that it's time to remove that threat from the planet.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 120 points 3 days ago (7 children)

If the United States drops a nuke, the world needs to unite against us.

[–] rhvg@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The world should do that now.

They kinda already are, looking at Gaza vote in UN.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 24 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The West for the most part isn't. Relations between Europe and America have gotten more antagonistic, but for the most part the former is toeing the latter's party line.

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[–] psoul@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe we need to unite against ourselves too, can’t just hope on others to do the right thing, gotta pitch in.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Correct. Im sure half the country will join the resistance and fight from within. We do need to handle our own, but im talking about nukes.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Seems to me, like there is EXTREMELY, next to zero, or perhaps zero reason to ever HAVE to use a nuke. Nuke's should be a defensive deterrent, not a first choice. I'm sure the military has plenty of other options.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

I’m sure the military has plenty of other options.

The other option is the GBU-57 bunker buster bombs, which is what they used - but a single bomb like that isn’t capable of reaching deep enough on its own. So they had to use a significant portion of their stockpile to achieve their objective that way.

The alternative would have been to drop in special forces and have them break into the heavily defended facility the traditional way.

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 49 points 3 days ago (5 children)
[–] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

Trump cheated to win the election. Most Americans are against him.

edit: I'm not just saying this, there's evidence to suggest it

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/kamala-harris-won-the-us-elections-bombshell-report-claims-voting-machines-were-tampered-with-before-2024/ar-AA1GnteW

However, yes, the country is shit right now. I agree.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Most Americans might be against him, but the majority of those that voted voted for him. People's apathy and the DNC continually being useless helped Trump win.

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

Most Americans are against him.

I'll believe it when I see it. What I see is Trump and his ICE Brownshorts running all over the place with almost zero resistance.

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[–] maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Don't worry guys we're not going to war.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We're playing Counter Strike, and later, you're in Counter Strike.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 2 points 2 days ago

Too late, we've been at war for a long time.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 79 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Especially, because the original article states „Trump is not considering using a tactical nuclear weapon on Fordow and the possibility was not presented by defense secretary Pete Hegseth and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff Gen Dan Caine in meetings in the White House situation room, two people familiar with the matter said.“ while the linked article here implies that this option is considered.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

I can't understand why anyone would believe anything a tangerine tyrant says he will or won't do, until we see it happen or not.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It is so odd that this info being publicized...

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They are trying to scare Iran into giving into what they want.

He thinks this is a genius plan.

It's stupid.

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they just want to test how much public outcry there would be

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago

Yeah no hipocrisy and double standards whatsoever /s

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nuking them to prevent them getting nukes? Why do you think they want them in the first place? Now they will want them even harder. Should try to bribe their way into getting access to US nukes, just need a white supremacist asshole techbro to do the talking and they'll give you whatever you want.

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[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That oompa lumpa of ours just wants to drop a nuke. I vote we not and tell him we did. Also all of his press conferences and appearances henceforth will be accompanied by a 90's sitcom style laugh track.

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