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I love malicious compliance with car-centric rules 😎
Well… there’s two sides to this. The sidewalk there looks narrow. Banning tables might have been a measure to make walking easier and remove cars.
Or you could turn that parking spot on a nice service area. As it is done in many countries now. We need to stop giving that much space to cars and trucks
During covid several prominent areas in my area turned about half the parking spots into outdoor seating...
They never stopped it. People love it!
And if we do, charge for parking. Lots of charging.
Even then its renting out public space. Imo just let the restaurants rent it for the same rate. Why do we need to reserve like 40% of our public spaces for car owners?
Pushing for paid parking will help to move in the right direction. The funding can help to improve and install walking / biking infrastructure and public transit. It can be a deterrent to car drivers, potentially causing them to opt into using those other services. As well as mitigate traffic and shift congestion.
Paid parking is always better for the anti car movement than free parking. It's a means to an end of car culture.
You gotta ban parking if you want to remove cars. The malicious compliance wouldn't have worked if that's the case
If there is one thing that can be said about Brazilians is their absolute creativity when it comes to going around an inconvenience. It's the famous "jeitinho".
Or you just make the street for humans, and with that have enough space for sidewalk patio tables and people to walk and cycle through
Yeah, I’m sure that municipality has the cash lying around to just redesign all their streets. Why didn’t they think of that?
It literally only takes paint.
I didn’t think of that. And it wasn’t even late when I commented, so I don’t have an excuse.
Redesigning streets for humans actually is an investment that will pay for itself in time. You could tax the restaurants for the patios, for example.
Since you take away heavy car traffic, the street will need less maintenance
Now that your street is nicely walkable, put some trees in, make it look nice, have restaurant and bar patios out, and you'll have much,uchore people visiting, making restaurants earn higher profits, making then also pay more taxes, again.
In another Brazilian city I personally know, Jundiaí - SP, some restaurants built some kind of "deck" (made of wood planks) on the side of the street. I tried to embed a photo from one of these (this is my first attempt on sending images to Lemmy using Calckey so I'm not sure if the image will work).
These "decks" were permanently installed, including electrical wiring running from the establishment to the "deck" lights. I don't even know how the city hall authorized this, considering how the region (Campinas Microregion, Jundiaí Urban Agglomeration and Greater São Paulo, all of them in growing process of conurbation) is highly car-centric (yeah, there's a growing public infrastructure including trains and bicycle lanes, and Jundiaí, specifically, is pretty walkable, but many things still seem to revolve around vehicles around there).
On the one hand, this theoretically frees up the sidewalk for pedestrians. On the other hand, it depends on the restaurant respecting pedestrians by keeping the sidewalk clear, and I don't know to what extent these restaurants do this. But this concept of flatbed truck bar isn't too far from that of these restaurants in Jundiaí.
FWIW, though I would have guessed Calckey was a calculator app, your image did work.
In a lot of Canadian cities, seasonal patios like that are super common. Patio season is limited and Canadians love eating outdoors when the weather is good, but it's obviously 3 season infrastructure in a country like Canada.
Keeping the sidewalk clear isn't really an issue, since nobody wants to have foot traffic buffeting their table. In some cases, the patio takes up the sidewalk, and the sidewalk is diverted around the patio with a wooden boardwalk. It's so common that there are businesses that do nothing but supply pop-up patios for businesses.
We've got some cafes that do this at my local village. No problem with pedestrian traffic. Just everyone being courteous. Works extremely well except for the hoons going past at full speed when they shouldn't be.
I think I'm missing something. In this case the car saved the day, didn't it?
I'm pretty sure car-centric culture is what made it so this had to be a solution in the first place.
Yeah, actually I kind of figured that out after I posted it. Doh!
It's because if you have a car you have free real state.
From car-centric, anti-human laws
why should laws not be anti-human? We're destroying the environment
Capitalism and incessant pollution is destroying the environment. Not humans existing
Gives a whole new meaning to "fell off a truck"
Malicious compliance lol
Honestly don't see the point of sitting outside in such places.
Oh nice, now I can breath petrol fumes and listen to engines while I have my dinner. Good job.
Bro should charge extra to drive around
Brazilian problems require Brazilian solutions.
I mean, they're off the sidewalk aren't they?