Habeas corpus was a fundamental right in English speaking countries going back to the Magna fucking Carta. It is incredible how fast everything is falling apart.
this post was submitted on 06 Aug 2025
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Imagine the time saved! Those court backlogs will be gone in no time! /s
You people really need to use that 2nd amendment
What's going on right now is actually a fantastic example of why this whole "people can have guns to overthrow a tyrant!" has been nothing more than a delusion used to justify having a gun fetish. It's 2025. Your gun will do absolutely nothing against the literal trillion dollars of annual spending you've approved for your own military and intelligence agencies.
I think it would make a difference. You saw how fast Elon started using his kid as a shield and others basically stayed off the streets after UH CEO got lit up. They'd be VERY scared if an unknown person started knocking them off, maybe 1 a month for a year, I think it'd send a VERY clear message. Especially if it's released why they got popped. Behavior would change quick.
The only reason we have shitty people make terrible, illegal decisions right now is because no one is holding them accountable. A .308 round would change that shit quick fast in a hurry.
Most American gun owners would probably get assigned dish duty in the Mujahideen, but there’s multiple precedents for effectively countering a military like the US, as hard and brutal and costly as it is.
That trillion dollars is designed to fight conventional armies and extremist Islamist terrorist cells in Africa and the Middle East. Our military apparatus is simply not capable of stopping any single individual, or small group(s), from randomly deciding to crash out. Unless the NSA/CIA/FBI/WTF/BBQ suddenly gain the power to read every person's mind, there's not a thing wealthy sociopaths can do to effectively wield the military against citizens in a way that makes it safe for those same sociopaths to walk down the street.
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My concern is that if we were to exercise our 2nd amendment rights to eliminate this totalitarian regime and then install a proper democratically-elected progressive administration, what’s to stop the Fox News types from riling up the MAGA masses into “taking back” the government and eliminating our new regime? Violence begets violence. There has to be a better way.
This isn't an argument you can win. People have spent too much time watching romanticized war movies and documentaries and don't understand what the personal cost of this would be. It sounds nice and all "rah rah rah let's get them" but this would to MILLIONS dying and elites still maintaining control in the end.
Yeah, I have run into a lot of keyboard warriors telling people to commit acts of violence to stop the regime, all while not doing anything of the sort. I doubt many, if any, of these people have ever been in a fight, let alone killed someone.
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The only thing keeping most from going postal is having to support a family.
The ones that cry the hardest about their second amendment are the ones that voted for this. The ones that want tyranny, because being tyrannical is OK so long as it's against those whiney losers you oppose.
The ones that want the second amendment are the ones that are so uintelligent and insecure that they need to buy a gun, or multiple guns.
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Looks like the removed sections are back. Odd...
Trump is doing anything to keep everyone from talking about Epstein.
It's working fuck this news.
Other way around. They're using Epstein to distract everyone from everything they're doing.
Seriously. How much has the mainstream corporate media covered our newly minted gestapo that's better funded than most militaries? Or gee idk, maybe followed the money? Ohh, it's going into their boss's pocket and they aren't allowed to talk about it?
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and Americans once again will bravely sit down and take it
It's not like removing the online copy removes the law. This is all just smoke and mirrors trying to distract from Trump's involvement with Epstien's child rape business.
Electing the fascist removed the law.
Remember folks. Fascism has never, ever been put down using words.
Arm yourselves. Help others arm themselves. Train with them and form networks.
As an European, I want Americans to fight against fascism, at the same time, it sounds like it would require civil war, and if that happens, then the sharks circling around US would use that opportunity to make some moves. This whole thing makes me uneasy. Y'all need to be smart about this.
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In Francoist Spain the dictatorship collapsed with the death of Franco and while a violent few years ensued, the Spanish Transition to Democracy was (comparatively) peaceful.
Political strength and popular support were far more important than strength in violence.
Moreover, a violent revolution was never achieved without the attendant political and logistical organization. So regardless of eventual character, the method of building a movement remains the same. Unfortunately it's boring, difficult work that leaves the most active most vulnerable to reprisals. Which is why people like Fred Hampton and Harvey Milk and Berta Cáceres are all so important and also ended up with their brains splattered on their beds/office floors etc.
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From George Orwell's Animal Farm:
"My sight is failing," [Clover] said finally. "Even when I was young I could not have read what was written there. But it appears to me that that wall looks different. Are the Seven Commandments the same as they used to be, Benjamin?"
For once Benjamin consented to break his rule, and he read out to her what was written on the wall. There was nothing there now except a single Commandment. It ran:
ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS
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For all you youngn’s, even if parts of the US constitution is removed from the random government entity’s website—it’s still available in many MANY forms. So like. Don’t think this means anything other than making things about as hard to access as they were like 15 years ago (which is to say not that hard).
Just cause a government website doesn’t have some information does not mean that laws have or have not changed.
Please explain any reason why the parts that the regime in the US specifically detests and have stated multiple times are not true would be removed due to a "data issue".
Please explain how one can request a court apperance after being dissapeared by a paramilitary group with alegence to the regime that's better funded than the Russian millitary, when the library of Congress does not have a section on due process.
Please explain when the president declares that the country is being invaded and anyone he deems subversive is now labeled a terrorist enemy of the state, how one can request their rights when the parts of the Constitution no longer say that only Congress has the power to say the country is being invaded?
This is not just some random government site. This is the library of Congress. This is the first result of the word "Constitution" on every major internet search engine.
This is not a slippery slope, this is a drop into a camouflaged pitfall onto sharpened stakes covered in shit.
This was a test to see if we would notice, if we would care or be indifferent, if we would speak up.
I doubt there will be a formal explanation or investigation that will explain any of this to any degree out side of "opps, it was just a technical error" as if it could be an honest mistake to delete specific parts of a document which never has anything ever removed from it, only ever amended.
those people will always call everyone alarmists and doomsayers, until they can't because the last of their freedom laws have been quietly removed. The Nazi party in Germany didn't start roaring and revolting, it started as a fed up minority that kept screaming so loud until everyone believed they were the majority. Stand up, fight for your and your neighbours freedoms and dont give those rightwing populists even an inch
I don’t disagree.
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The older I get, the more I realize the slippery slope fallacy isn't a fallacy at all.
You shouldn't be so confident in your 'wisdom' if you're older than most of us and you haven't reached that conclusion yet.
This isn't about making it harder to access your rights. It's signalling what rights you've lost. Who can advocate for your freedoms when the highest courts follow this new doctrine?
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What a time to be alive.
They're not deleting it to say it doesn't exist, they're deleting it to prevent people from looking up their rights.
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Ironic, since the writ of Habeas corpus predates even the Magna Carta.
Habeas corpus goes back to around 1166, which for those keeping track, is only around 600 years before the founding of the USA…
The US was founded on ostensibly three major legal ideas.
Habeus Corpus.
Due Process.
The Magna Carta.
We don't seem to currently have any of the three.
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