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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Electioneering is a power reserved to the states. So, this order is ignorable.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So are dozens of others, that didn't stop them from being enforced and acted up on.

Unlike the laws that our constitution outlines, which are not enforced or observed.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

that didn’t stop them from being enforced and acted up on.

Well, technically congress can invent a financial reward for following its legislative incentives. So, Congress can essentially bribe a state into followibg its ideals, but a state can opt out in favor of self governance so long as it does jot interfere with a power expressed to Congress nor violate the amendments to the us constitution via the 14th and 15th Amendments. So, a state cannot create voting test laws and the such, but they can decide what a district does or doesn't look like.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 119 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Blatantly unconstitutional. The voting is directly controlled by the state constitutions, not the fed. Even congress would need to amend the constitution to do this, but we'll see how the bench legislators in SCOTUS rule.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Constitution no longer matters when all branches of power fail to uphold it and instead collude with the Orange King.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

SCOTUS already crossed that line with Trump v. Anderson.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not really the same, that ruling was for the Fourteenth Amendment disqualification because Trump engaged in insurrection against the United States, that states can't individually determine if someone engaged in insurrection.

Article 1 of the constitution outlines clearly that states manage the time, place and manner of elections:

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 17 points 2 days ago

States determine ballot eligibility for their ballots. 14A S3 clearly addresses ballot eligibility in relation to insurrection. When I say that SCOTUS "crossed that line", I meant that in the sense of "they were wrong, I wonder why".

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Republicans seems to interpret the constitution like christians interpret the bible

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Congress could probably do it, but it would have to be functional to do so. Which it very much is not.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's an executive order, it doesn't have that power.

Yet states and other agencies will "make it happen" as if it does.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 62 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Among other serious problems, this would disenfranchise all military service members stationed or deployed outside their home state. The Democrats really should be making a big deal out of that.

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Oh but it's not going to effect them at all because you see, they're using absentee ballots which are a totally different and completely secure thing."

Actual talking point I've seen floating around already.

[–] khornechips@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago

Okay! Then let’s just switch everyone over to those! Can’t wait to hear how that’s impossible for reasons.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago

Hahaha no. This will not include them.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also those of us not in the military but living fulltime outside the US :/

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

if i were one of those people living abroad i'd probably just renounce my citizenship at this point.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

No, this is one we should be concerned about. Eliminate mail-in voting, and democrats won't win another election again. The vast majority of people vote by mail.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

He can't eliminate mail-in voting by executive order.

And before you say 'he doesn't care about the law he'll do it anyway,' no state that isn't already fallen to the crazy will acknowledge such an order.

This is an obvious distraction. One you are falling for.

[–] greasewizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago

he actuy said those words at the last zelensky meeting

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

as if it even matters at this point

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Can't win without cheating or rigging. Sounds right for the Party of Pedos.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] marsza@lemmy.cafe 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You sweet summer child, that means nothing these days. Trump will have his way because no one will do anything about it.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Yep any state that refuses to follow this order will just have its ballots invalidated. Funny it will be mostly in blue states that this happens in.

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[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

"Remember, the States are merely an 'agent' for the Federal Government in counting and tabulating the votes. They must do what the Federal Government, as represented by the President of the United States, tells them, FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COUNTRY, to do," Trump wrote.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-vows-target-mail-in-ballots-ahead-2026-midterm-election-2025-08-18/

Just gonna leave that right there.

[–] uss_entrepreneur@startrek.website 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit he really does think he is a king. This is terrifying.

The constitution explicitly gives this power to the states. Even if it didn’t it would be up to congress.

Holy fuck. He needs to be 25th amendmented and drug out of the White House.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

We don't need the 25th Amendment. He is in blatant defiance of the Constitution he swore to protect. It is yet another instance of a thing that anyone else would be impeached over.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Well that's fucking horrifying.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

if i had thought there were any actual chance we were going to have legitimate elections in the future i might care a little more.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gonna have to draft a constitutional amendment dumass

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He'll just shut down USPS for the 6 weeks leading up to the next election.

[–] bluemellophone@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oregon has been entirely state-wide mail-in voting for decades. Good luck shutting down an entire state’s mail for more than a month.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I mean, it already worked didn't it?

First term the USPS was taken from a trusted, consistent, and reliable way to move mail. I to something that a considerable number of people no longer trust BECAUSE it was sabotaged.

All he has to do is continue sabotaging our institutions, then they will no longer be effective, and can be cut down with public approval. Since voters have the memories of gnats.

It doesn't need to shut down, it just needs to be made ineffective, gutted, and sold to UPS & FedEx for pennies on the dollar. So private corps can benefit from our public investments, to our detriment.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

"STatE rIGhtS"

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Executive. Orders. Are. Not. Laws.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Traitor. Destroying America at every turn. And not in a good way.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

WTAF. Assuming we even still have voting, I'm going to be so pissed if this dementia-addled diaper-filling piece of shit means voting in Colorado has to be in-person.

Fuck this guy.

Can we just replace the president with AI? I would be more confident at that point.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When are they ending voting altogether?

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Probably never.

It will be like in Russia: your vote doesn't matter, but elections still take place as a way for the "Great Leader" to assert his power and dominance over the masses. Elections then become a lie that everyone knows but no one can publicly say, a form of exhibitionism in honor of the King's power to control the narrative, to distort reality.

Unfortunately, the new American elections will become a gruesome feast mocking democracy where every guest already knows the results.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Season 2 after the season 1 cliffhanger: who actually owns Alaska?

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