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[–] Rothe@piefed.social 15 points 6 days ago

They never believed in any of that. They pretended to because that is what they felt was necessary in order to keep their grift going, but Trump has shown them that they don't have to pretend anymore. They can openly grift and their voters will love them for it.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They’ve always been hypocrites, and they always will be. Trump hasn’t changed this, he just knew how to manipulate it for his own personal gain.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 36 points 1 week ago

Yeah, "limited government" has never been true. They always favoured big government when it comes to interventions in people's personal lives, including medical decisions, marriage, and what substances you can imbibe. They've never cared for reducing the debt, except when Democrats were in charge of it. Law and order & justice have always been a "do as I say, not as I do" type situation. It's that classic quote:

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

Trump has amped this up to 11, but it's always been the main defining feature of the Republican party (at least during my lifetime).

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"States' rights"

Anyway, what's up with that red dot?

[–] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

PRO TIP: Most guns are highly effective with a red-dot sight. Easy to dial in, can't hardly miss, like a cheat code for shooting. Just sayin'.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

They never believed any of this stuff. It was always a smokescreen for misogyny, racism and homophobia.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I just discovered Barry Goldwater’s The Conscience of a Conservative recently. It pretty much laid the foundation for the current Republican mentality that paved the way for Trump.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Conscience of a Conservative

Sounds like one of those gag books made up of nothing but blank pages.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Its legit and was handed out during the 1960s GOP convention.

The first chapter alone reads as someone with a superiority complex that's petty and jealous. Book uses a lot of scare quotes that Trump is so fond of, too.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Don’t forget Ayn Rand

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The believe in state's rights, as long as they're red states.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

You always have to ask "what right specifically?"

The answer usually boils down to racism and/or slavery.

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

They've never believed in anything but trying to be victims.

[–] southernbeaver@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

What they really believed

"Look how we owned the libs" they say as the boat sinks.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

Maybe most Republican voters. Just because they were used as election buzzwords doesn't mean they were goals. I challenge if any of them were as solid as advertised for the actual GOP party. They were useful as talking points. The difference now is that they don't feel they have to pretend anymore to maintain power, the system is fully tilted and election promises aren't needed.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

They will adapt their stance as long as it will result in punishing perceived enemies. They would rather do harm to 'lesser' people than better things for everyone

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Lots of those were gone well before Trump. I think a lot of centrists just started noticing more.