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Too many people pearl clutching today over worries of retributive violence, as if the fascists aren't already going to be committing that violence on us in the near future regardless. It's not too early to say that this scumbag deserved much worse and I'm glad he got rocked so publicly. Mods I'll understand if you delete this and I'm truly sorry for the trouble if you do, I just need a personal break today from the media cacophony of liberals collectively reconciling with the realization that we live in an abnormally and horrifically violent society.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 170 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Imagine leading a life where millions are giddy over your death.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 60 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I literally cannot recognize Charlie Kirk without his tiny face shrunken slightly further down.

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[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

Some bring joy wherever they go… others, whenever they go

[–] jokersteve@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

Like when Henry Kissinger died and every second city in South America had celebratory parties?

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[–] mgnome@piefed.social 129 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I feel like THIS is retributive violence. Democratic politicians were earlier shot dead in their homes, so I'd say that republicans (who are themselves endorsing political violence) shouldn't be able to feel safe either.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 78 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

The Republicans are only going to talk about violence against them. They have a victim mentality and Charlie boy is now a martyr.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

Kirk promoted gun violence to justify the 2nd amendment. It would be poetic justice if the killer was someone whose loved one died from gun violence and chose to give him a taste of his own opinion.

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[–] mikesizachrist@lemmy.world 70 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i switched over from reddit recently and this post makes me here to stay. Got a loud laugh out of me after reading all the undeserved sympathy this guy was getting.

I've been wondering for awhile now - at what point do ppl just start killing these fucking ppl. I guess that's today. Hopefully this a lesson/reminder in why you don't treat your fellow man like fucking dogshit, cause they just might tear your fucking throat out!

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 70 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Bruh... We are in for an explosion of political violence... Only difference between now and the past is white wealthy men are the targets. Watching them freak out when they are gunned down on a random Wednesday is laughable. Welcome to your average black Americans reality. Police killings are political violence but no one with actual power ever gave a shit.

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[–] Cedar@lemmy.ml 69 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Someone said “he died as he lived: talkin’ out the side of his neck.”

Perfection.

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[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 66 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

I feel for all the people who will have to live with the fear and trauma of witnessing this. I’m glad nobody else was hurt. This type of violence is a consequence of our gun-obsessed and highly politically polarized culture, which Kirk had a massive hand in making worse. I hope we can focus on the damage his rhetoric has caused and those who were taken in by him can use this as a learning moment.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 59 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

dude had a big face or small face depending on how you define face, i see why the shooter didn't want to overcomplicate and went for the neck

[–] mgnome@piefed.social 65 points 3 weeks ago

If he got shot in the head - no vital organs would've been hit tho.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 27 points 3 weeks ago

If they were shooting at the face, they would have misjudged the distance.

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[–] cm0002@piefed.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 99 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It was while he was being asked about gun violence that he was shot, the student says.

Unbelievable.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 107 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Specifically, he was in the middle of spinning a question about mass shootings into a dog whistle about "gang violence".

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 66 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

mass shootings committed by trans people, specifically

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 98 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

The order of events as I've been seeing online:

Videos circulating on social media showed an attender at the student event on Wednesday asking Charlie Kirk: “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?”

In response, Kirk said: “Too many,” as the crowd clapped.

In a follow-up question, the attender asked: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”

Kirk replied: “Counting or not counting gang violence?”

His last act on earth was cracking a joke about how only queers and poors are involved in gun violence, at which point he was shot.

[–] icylobster@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for extra context. These people really don't seem to care about others suffering. Also I don't normally hear gang violence and mass shooters together. Gang violence is generally targeted and not focused on the most amount of bodies.

Regardless I'm getting tired of this all, and it's likely only beginning.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a regularly used debate tactic of the right. He was going to imply that whatever number the student came up with for mass shootings was inflated because the criteria was too vague and erroneously counts gang violence. He would then have used this to simultaneously downplay the seriousness of mass shootings and suggest that trans people represent a larger proportion of mass shooters than they actually do. It was his way of discrediting the argument that the student was making; that trans people are actually underrepresented in the population of mass shooters. The reason for the student making this argument - if you don't know - is that Charlie Kirk has blamed trans people for mass shootings in the past, jumping on the conservative bandwagon that always transvestigates mass shooters because they believe they are a trans conspiracy.

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[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago

Some of you will die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to hhh-uh-kkuggg...

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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 53 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have to admit, the Republicans were right about the second amendment. We need to be (legally) buying guns and (legally) protesting with them.

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[–] xodoh74984@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (20 children)

Fountain of blood is an understatement. It looked like special effects. The guy went out like a DOOM villain. He died gargling on his own blood.

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[–] Baked86@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The onion had a good headline, 'Charlie Kirk loses gun control debate by a longshot'

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago

They’re already committing violence. It’s just directed against brown people, we shouldn’t forget that. The level they expand and escalate it to is what’s up for debate.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Lol.

So long asshole.

Ran your mouth one day too long.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I don't know a lot about him, I'm not US American.

I condemn violence in general but a person like him who helps polarize society, pours oil in the fire etc. may just reap what he sowed.

That's what you get, with culture war nonsense and playing sides of the political spectrum against each other. Strange to assume this would just stay rhetoric.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Main difference between him and someone else fueling the fire is the irony.

He specifically supported people bringing guns to schools wiith quotes that essentially boil down to "Gun violence happens but we just have to live with it to protect our god given rights."

He was the reason he could get shot.

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 weeks ago

I give up. Are they gonna post the answer later? How does this work?

[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Dude, I watched a youtube video of local news stations reporting over the shooting. The youtube comments are completely deranged and 100% written by AI. Somehow charlie kirk is being equated to MLK Jr.

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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

Oh no, anyway

[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s ironic to mention retributive violence while advocating against people’s rights to be armed to defend themselves.

Nobody is advocating for murder or murderers. While I dislike reddit, /r/DGU is typically very illustrative as to why it’s so important.

I hope - sincerely - to never need to defend myself or my family.

That doesn’t mean you get to disarm me so that some murderers can ignore the law and kill people anyway.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Murder is strictly the illegal killing of someone.

If it is legal to target a minority group it may be illegal for that minority group to resist.

You can end up with a situation where Alice killing Bob is legal and not murder, but Bob killing Alice in self defence is murder.

In such cases the morality of Bob engaging in self defense is not so easily encompassed in "murder is wrong."

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm a pro-2A gun owner, I suspect you may not be reading the meme the way I intended / expected.

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