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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 65 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I would also like a peaceful national divorce. Those of us who prefer intellectualism and advancement get one half, and the knuckledragging neanderthals whose only accomplishment in life is being born white get the other half

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And then our states can finally stop paying for their states to drag us back to the dark ages.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That money can go towards funding migration for whoever wants to move to the other half

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[–] GorGor@startrek.website 7 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

A house divided cannot stand

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I wouldn't really call it standing right now

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Two separate united houses can stand, though.

Well, one of them can. Based on how their economies seem to do, the other one's going to be in trouble pretty quickly.

[–] GorGor@startrek.website 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

how quickly will BRICS snuggle up to the greater Texas petro state? What is their next move? Mutual defense pact? Plus with aligned states cutting the two coasts apart up through Idaho, there are really two seperate 'liberal' nations, not one. Oh, and California has the largest population of republicans outside of Texas so, not a lot of support. The US would be carved up and devoured in 2-3 years. It would no longer be a world player. That is already clearly the goal and it is working. I dont know why people want to accelerate this rather than attempt to reverse it.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, I'm Canadian, and America has been threatening my country's sovereignty lately. I'd rather they just go back to being relatively sane again but if that's not in the cards then splitting America up into more manageable pieces is an adequate fallback I suppose.

Those pieces wouldn't be superpowers. They'd just be regular countries like everyone else. Is that so terrible?

[–] GorGor@startrek.website 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you would be surprised how bad the neighborhood would get with the US broken up into waring factions.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'm surprised how bad the neighborhood is with America being one big piece. I think chunking it up would make things better for us in the long run, especially considering that the relatively "saner" chunks would act as somewhat of a buffer between us and the total froot-loops down south.

As I said, there are other solutions I'd rather see happen. But if the US is going to stay as it is now then by all means break it up, that's better than having it be one giant hostile nation.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

One half can stand just fine. It has the economy and progressive politics to do so.

The other half can rot and die. It only serves as a ball and chain.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Maybe that would be the best way out of this for the rest of the world though

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[–] f1error@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Fine. If you’re a right wing nut move south.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Trump actually isn't very popular in the South today.

His strongest remaining support is in the two top coal-mining states


Wyoming and West Virginia


and Idaho. None of those are in the South.

The Economist's net approval map is interactive


you can click on it to get numbers


and I can't put that in this post, but here's a screenshot showing the colors:

https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker

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[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He would still win if there was an election today. Even though they don't like Trump, they'd still vote party line.

[–] ChimpChamp22@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

MAGA also did, and continues to do, everything it can to rig the elections.

Great.

But the south has a fucking hard-on for absolutely fucking imbecilic, racist, xenophobic Republicans. So, you know, have fun with that.

I would be stoked if the actually productive and cosmopolitan states could shed the dead weight of the fucking confeds (and the handful of “frontier” states that think they could swing it without federal support - spoiler alert, they absolutely cannot), and then just make some sort of agricultural deal with Canada and Mexico to make up for the flyover states being the People’s Republic of Supply Side Jesus, and let them see how that pans out for a few decades. I’m fucking done giving a shit about the parts of the country that are so far up their own asshole that they don’t understand they’re voting against their own best interests.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Damn, Maryland is pissed

Also I really hate those square maps, they make the Midwest a jumbled mess.

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[–] MumboJumbo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately though, if you toggle the switch to "2024 Voters", the map gets less red (Red indicating underwater in approval rating, grey being positive - for anyone that didn't play with the map.) Those haters need to vote!

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You’re correct. I’m not sure what “2024 voters” means though. Maybe I didn’t search hard enough. Are they just voters polled back in 2024? Is All voters they polled this year? Is All 2024 and 2025 combined?

[–] MumboJumbo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I assume it to mean persons that actually voted in 2024, not just eligible to vote, or general population.

[–] QBertReynolds@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I guess fuck everyone in Atlanta, Memphis, Austin, New Orleans, or any other city in the south, right?

[–] f1error@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep. You called it. Good luck.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Look we’re going to make sure there’s plenty of room for you here because we’re going to persuasively ask the Nazis to leave. I’m sure New Orleans and Atlanta will have strongholds in the cities but again there’s going to be plenty of room in Utah, Southern California, Montana and Idaho when we start encouraging the Nazis to go to their own country.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Good luck with Idaho. You would need to depopulate 90% of the state

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I think you’re right I am making a second map

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I thought about that. I’m thinking Boise and salt lake will give us a land bridge to Colorado and Nebraska for grains. We might have to start with the most important portions of land.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Red state here. Are you all accepting adoption applications? I don't get in much trouble at school and clean my room every day.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

You’re in

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Balfour would've been proud.

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[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

again? hey everyone look, she said the thing again

[–] GorGor@startrek.website 4 points 2 weeks ago

Every. Damn. Time.

How is it news still?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I frankly don’t think this shithole is going to be able to pull out of this idiocy

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Nah. Doubt it.

Not really sure how it's going to play out, but old America is done and gone.

Too many stupids to maintain a functional federal government across a large nation.

Balkanization seems likely. And at this point I don't really care and think it would probably be for the best, especially for blue states.

We're not going back to what we had.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Into it.

Blue states secede and watch the red states cannibalize themselves.

They need us. We don't need them.

They will only learn if they are entirely destitute and have to come crawling back to us.

But we both know the violent right would go to war to prevent blue states from seceding. Like I said, they need us.

[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 12 points 2 weeks ago

She doesn’t have enough toes for her opinions to matter

[–] BoloMKXXVIII@piefed.social 12 points 2 weeks ago

MTG has the common sense of a rubber duck, the intelligence of a flea, and the understanding of a brick.

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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 8 points 2 weeks ago

Red types move to florida now before all the good land is taken by the oce….. other people seeking freedom!

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, but we keep the house.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah you should divorce and leave the country. Byyyyyyyyyyyyye

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Margie, worry about your own divorce. Leave the country alone. It has enough fuckwits trying to destroy it already.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, it would be an interesting experiment I guess. I suspect it would effectively segregate the states by ideology and race. I assume most non-old-white-christians would prefer to live in blue states.

But one glaring question is how would we divide up existing federal resources? Like the military, bank, etc.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

She's already called for that multiple times, and each time she would have (and will ) regret it if she got it as she'd be left with a thrift word theocratic dictatorship that wouldn't be able to feed its own population

[–] Hector@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think it is a good idea. Break into 3 unions of states. North, south, west.

The south can fuck themselves down there on their own.

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