Consistency is king for giant food corporations. Roasting the hell out of beans drives off unique taste elements so beans from different harvests and locations can be blended together for the same taste every time.

Also, Starbucks is based on Italian coffee culture where beans are practically carbonized, which also makes espresso easier to extract (more bang for your buck).

[–] Aedis@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What I got from your post is "Italian coffee is crap" and that sounds preposterous to me.

A good dark roast is hard to achieve without burning the beans. But also removes the disgusting acidic taste from the beans that medium and light roasts heretics have been trying to demand our respect for.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

I don't agree with the "Italian coffee is crap" sentiment, but I also don't agree with the "light and medium roasts are disgusting" sentiment. So fuck you both, now let's kiss

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They roast at high temps because it’s faster.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Haven't been in years once I realized it wasn't a mistake at one or two locations. It just tasted like shit everywhere.

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

I’m sure they all use the same supply of beans

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

And they do it on purpose to decrease the weight of the beans so shipping is cheaper...

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I’m one of the weirdos that actually likes their burnt taste. Still don’t go there anymore tho

[–] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It really does suck. There are independent coffee shops in almost every town. Go there instead

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Or make your own. Every thrift store has a cheap espresso maker and it probably works.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn’t he all also fly the corporate jet ti the office instead of just living near by

I am already boycotting them.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Same guy who shuttered the Chipotle corporate office in Denver and moved it to Newport Beach, laying off hundreds of people so he wouldn't have to commute. Real standup guy.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why the hell do boards enable these guys?

[–] ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

Mainly because boards consist almost entirely of these guys - they are all friends and they all do favours for each other!

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Guess I'll continue not getting Starbucks coffe as I haven't for years

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I used to like their hot chocolate, but they took that off the menu around COVID.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Been here for years. Once they started union busting, I was out

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Follow their union.

https://sbworkersunited.org/

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have boycott Starbucks for 3 years now. In Taiwan, some malls will only have a single coffee shop and it's Starbucks. I rather just get a boba tea instead of giving money to that evil corp.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Taiwan Starbucks is entirely owned and operated by Uni-president Enterprise Corp. It was part of a deal where Starbucks, the parent corp acquired half of ownership in mainland China Starbucks while giving up all Taiwan ownership.

Over here, Luckin seems more popular than Starbucks, for similar, slightly better quality and slightly worse atmosphere.

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[–] Beebabe@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Only people I know who drink Starbucks are already maga and won’t care. Most people I know just drink (gag) Dunkin. Theres no reasoning, it’s New England.

[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Do Americans no longer have independent coffee shops and restaurants?? Is it all chains down there now?

[–] Beebabe@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Where I am we had one for about 6 months. There are a couple of shops, yes, but they are a drive. Dunkin has a store every mile.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think in New England, Dunkin is a blood type.

[–] Beebabe@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah and it’s not great so I don’t even understand.

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've boycotted Starbucks almost my entire life.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

Outside of Japan and China, I have never had coffee from a random cafe that wasn't both cheaper and higher quality than Starbucks. That's not to say Starbucks is good in China and Japan, just outside of Osaka, the average quality is not great in those countries.

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[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The poor fellow needs a new dock for his new yacht , you guys have no heart

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago

Well at least it's subtle. It's only about three times the size of someone's house.

[–] Dohnuthut@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is one I was already boycotting, but not because of their practices, it's because their coffee is terrible. I'd rather get some from the gas station.

[–] activistPnk@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That’s not a boycott. That’s the normal market working as designed. If you love the coffee but refuse to patronise them, then you are boycotting.

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[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

btw this is the signal that a company is failing. it will eventually completely crumble and be picked apart by other businesses.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ehhh, 900 jobs in the scheme of a company in the S&P 500 isn't necessarily very many. Those are usually companies with 10s of thousands of employees.

Actually they list on their website that there's over 18k locations in the US and Canada, so assuming 10 positions per storefront (likely an underestimate) that's only 90 locations being closed. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that they see a similar amount of churn every year of locations opening and closing, with the difference being that these are locations being deliberately closed as a step in brand strategy

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[–] tea@lemmy.today 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Has the Target boycott been successful? I haven't heard them backtrack on their DEI programs, right?

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

They're continuing to see reduced foot traffic and sales, so the boycott is at least boycotting.

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[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Local roasters for the win.

[–] the_beach_lasagna@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The Starbucks CEO also has one of the highest carbon footprints out of any Fortune 500 and S&P 500 CEO as well given his private jet travel from the Los Angeles area to Seattle. He could have rented out his SoCal home and brought a nice house in Mercer Island to avoid all of this, but instead he chooses his private jet super commute. Bold of them to remove plastic straws and replace them with paper straws.

Fortunately as someone who lives in the Pacific Northwest, I have plenty of more ethical alternatives for coffee shops and cafes so I don't have to give any money to an oligarch. It is a little sad to see the Seattle Reserve Roastery go since that place is everyone's go-to in the dark and rainy Seattle winters, but Starbucks sort of did them to themselves! Fk corporate greed and fk Brian Nichols!

[–] AmericanEconomicThinkTank@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Couldn't have anything do with unions forming.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

lol the only starbucks near me is in a target

(I don't go to Starbucks, for that quality of coffee it's a better value to just make it at home)

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

... and you can bet someone's going to get a performance bonus for this. The whole point of restructuring is to increase profitability right now with no consideration for the future. Someone is going to hit their current year-end cost-savings targets by reducing jobs and closing stores then leverage that to get their next, higher-paid, job for a different company where they will do the same. Applause all round, job well done, isn't the increasing homeless problem annoying?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

Wonder if the 6,666 figure was intentional

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