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This week, Canadian airline WestJet became one of the first to try to switch the ability to recline into a paid "perk" by announcing that it was reconfiguring 43 of its Boeing 737-8 MAX and 737-800 (BA) planes to have what it classifies as a "refreshed range of seating options."

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[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Flew back from Hawaii on WestJet last year and paid for extended comfort.... I don't regret it purely because it would of been an even shittier experience otherwise.

This is just about greed it's not to make it more affordable. they changed everything last year making it far more expensive for everything. Not to mention their points have gone to shit and their companion vouchers are worthless.

Nationalize the airlines and remove the profit motives.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

Nationalize everything.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anyone remember when Air Canada really was a great airline?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

The article is about WestJet.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

The hell they are…

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Ugh. What a pain. Can't they just make it a subscription instead?

/s

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 days ago

If charge by the minute if I were them.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Psst! "Reclining" an airline seat tilts it 5 degrees back to almost where it's comfortable like a normal non-reclining chair. They moved their "normal" forward so they could jam you right up against the row ahead that much more.

Westjet is poised to move from #2 worst airline in the developed world to #1, but Canada's only other national airline will surely reclaim the #1 worst airline in the developed world spot if it does lose it to #2.

These are the foreign-owned airlines serving Canada, kids. Fly them only when you must.

[–] Sal@mander.xyz 65 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'd rather pay for preventing the front passenger from reclining into me.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

Then he pays even more to recline even further. Will you match the $15?

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Nah, they'll alternate reclinable and non-recinable rows - just for fun.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 40 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'll pay extra to disable the person in front of me from being able to recline their seat.

As it is, I never use seat recline because there isnt fucking room.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

They cost $42,95 but I kinda think it’s a shitty move when you can upgrade to extra legroom in most flights.

Knee dedenders

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm 6'3". Why should I have to pay while stubbies don't?

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Same height. Before they started selling those exit row seats for more money I used to ask the flight attendants to let me move if there was room available. It seemed to help if I stood up extra tall so that my head would be close to the roof, they hooked me up a few times (I didn’t fly that often back then anyway), especially on littler planes were I looked like a giant.

I have many sat in a normal seat in a while since my the person who books my flights is also tall and gets me the extra legroom seats automatically now. So I’m spoiled.

Really there should be safer seat spacing for tall people though, but I’m not holding my breath.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago

Sure then they should have reduced the cost of non reclining seats and nobody would care. But they are charging more for something they was included before.

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[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pamphlets and brochures are being replaced with more accurate, updated versions.

1000034701

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oxygen gets you high. In a catastrophic emergency, you're taking giant panicked breaths. Suddenly you become euphoric, docile. You accept your fate. It's all right here. Emergency water landing - 600 miles an hour. Blank faces, calm as Hindu cows

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You my friend are single serving

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Thanks! 😊

[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm actually fine with them removing ALL seat reclining options.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

The tiny angle it goes back is not worth have the idiot ahead of you firback the seat while you are eating

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago

Stop posting clickbait.

Put the proper noun in the goddamn headline.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So if the seat in front of me reclines into my face, I cannot move without paying?

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[–] Polkira@piefed.ca 20 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I wish our government would regulate this shit. Airlines shouldn't be able to nickle and dime like this. Prices just keep going up 😒

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I agree, something should be done. But I'm not sure about price increase. I've been flying one long haul destination for almost 20 years. The catch? The price has been about there all this time. I always book a long time in advance, but still.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

are you in a "paid for oxygen row" or a "hold your breath" row ?

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Don’t give Omar Baba any ideas!

https://youtu.be/YfQmiucLZvQ

[–] jif@piefed.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The airline industry figured out long ago that people will suffer the most miserable flights possible in order to save money but they will absolutely take free comfort upgrades. If they do this it’s to save money and make the flight cheaper because if other airlines offer reclining seats at the same price customers will take those instead as a free upgrade.

[–] Eranziel@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Please explain how this saves them money? All I see is finding ways to upcharge customers for what used to be standard options, while maybe cramming in one more row of passengers.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Cramming in one more row of passengers means you get more passengers per flight => each passenger costs less to fly.

I don’t actually know if they’re going to fit in one more row though. Maybe the non-reclining seats are lighter in weight? That would save money on fuel costs.

If the system for optional reclining seats actually adds weight to the plane then they’re taking a gamble that enough passengers will pay extra for the reclining to pay for the additional fuel costs. That could backfire!

In a lot of ways this seems like an experiment that could backfire, even if it doesn’t risk increasing flight costs on some flights. Only time will tell!

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

You mean "to increase profits"..

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

That’s less specific. You can increase profits by saving money (reducing costs) or you can increase profits by selling more (increasing sales).

This plan to take away reclining seats is unlikely to increase sales!

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Fast forward to the part where they make you pay for your own breathable air...

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