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[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is not news though? This is a 6 year old article about the 2018 Christmas period. So much has changed since then.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

The thing is that the misinformation that "reducing car traffic would harm business" is still being spread again and again, so it is necessary to repeat the facts.

[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

get a bunch of execs on board with reducing car presence in favor of foot and bike, I like

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's almost like people driving are not the ones who have time to shop in street level shops. Nice to have some data to back it up, but it's pretty obvious.

[–] BigShammy80@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah. While walking to the shop where you want to buy something, you see stuff and maybe buy it too.

With a car you drive to the shop, buy the thing and leave.

[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

While I continue to believe that largely car free city centres will be more economically resilient, using data from before COVID is pointless. The way people shop and spend has changed a lot since 2018. It would be more interesting to see more recent data on this question to be able to shape future policies accordingly.

[–] AAA@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

People sitting in a car don't step into the random shop on their way. Pretty unlikely this changed.

[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But people going to random shops might have gotten more used to shopping online. I believe looking at similar examples if only just to prove a thesis we already believe in can be worthwhile.

[–] AAA@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

For sure, everyone has. But the same is true for those using a car to get to a shop. After all they go specifically to that shop, more likely for a known product than the random shopper.

More recent data is warranted, but I don't think it will differ that much. On the grand scale of things both sides will be affected similarly from the changes post covid.

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

General positive effects of pedestrianisation still seem to hold even after COVID.

This later study for Osaka is also co authored by Yuki Yoshimura, one of the authors of study using Spanish data.

Quantifying tactical urbanism: Economic impact of short-term pedestrianization on retail establishments - ScienceDirect - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264275125001039

‪Yuji Yoshimura‬ - ‪Google Scholar‬ - https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=RBHJzi4AAAAJ

[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks for sharing this insightful information! This seems to confirm the trend we all seemed to intuitively believe in.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Slow people down, they buy more. When I have a garage sale or get a booth at the flea market, I deliberately slow people up. Spread the goods around, make them step into the area to look at things, give them lots to look at, etc. Chat with them. Nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd.