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I never understood why a privacy and security focused project would use Google hardware.
Because only Google provided everything needed to actually fully support the hardware it runs on. Besides, hardware is just the skeleton, as long as you exchange the brains inside, you are fine. Like a bomb shell but empty inside.
Still, I do not like paying money to google.
It's like saying I don't like drinking water from planet Earth. Good luck with alternatives.
Imagine, they announce a Chinese phone brand, like Huawei or Xiaomi. Although that Xiaomi 17 Pro Max... damn.
I hope they also enhance their social media strategy, as their unprofessional and aggressive way of communication makes me question their trustworthiness more than I want, as I think the project is awesome.
I'm out of the loop. Any examples of this?
They shit on other projects all the time (frequently unprovoked, sometimes without the original conversation having anything to do about security). They also often reply with multiple posts with multiple paragraphs each when shitting on other projects. It shouldn't take very long to find an example if you trawl through their replies on Twitter, Bluesky, or Mastodon.
They have good points, but they're often either not relevant to the conversation or worded in such a way that it sounds like every project other than GrapheneOS is dogshit.
They also sometimes go on (IMO) paranoid rants about XYZ project systematically trying to destroy them or whatever.
I got the same vibes when they describe in detail how supposedly terrible Firefox on Android is for security. I actually didn't believe them just based on the tone.
I mean, I think they're right that the security is worse. I'm pretty sure it's worse on desktop too, just not nearly as bad. Last I checked, Firefox on Android still doesn't do per-site process isolation by default, for example.
If you want a direct example you can check their replies on Mastodon to about every topic.
Yep. They need an actual comms professional. I love GOS and am forever grateful to the team but having a bunch of non-nuero-typical devs speaking for them is not doing them any favours.
Seriously. I love GOS and can't imagine using a phone without it at this point, but their social media is a shitshow and a half.
For me, it would be the opposite. Their "unprofessional" and aggressive way of communications makes me think they are doing it for convictions rather then personal benefits. The person that's helping you doesn't need to be overly polite. The person trying to get something out of you does.
Doesn't seem "it's finally ready" when they didn't name the name.
Amateur marketing speak for "we're considering bringing it to other hardware"?
It's not marketing speak because GrapheneOS didn't say it. It's a bad headline from a site known for bad reporting. GrapheneOS has been talking about this for months and there's nothing new in this article that wasn't already out there.
Break free, implying they won't support Pixels anymore (is how I interpreted it at first anyway), but they are simply expanding support for more devices. 👍
The article suggests that they have not decided whether to support new models of Pixel but will support current models until EOL
For existing Pixel users, GrapheneOS plans to maintain support for current devices until their end-of-life dates. The team is working on adding Pixel 10 support, though the timeline remains unclear. Whether they’ll support Pixel 11 and beyond hasn’t been decided yet.
It'd be funny to me if Pixel sales tanked a significant amount and it turns out that people only used their phones for Graphene.
Me personally, I don't like Pixel phones. But I've owned every single one of them through 9 Pro.
I look forward to a Graphene future.
I'm glad this is getting some traction now, but this is some poor reporting. This is one site reporting what another site saw, which was just GrapheneOS restating things they've been saying since the summer, with no new info. I read both this article and the one they link to as their source and learned nothing I haven't already known for months just from casually checking on GrapheneOS socials.
I wish fairphone could be the thing, but unfortunately - doesn't seem to be the case https://piunikaweb.com/2025/10/13/grapheneos-ending-pixel-exclusivity-new-oem/
I'll speculate.
My money's on Asus. Asus is a bit more mainstream than Nothing but still enough of an underdog that I think they should see the value in a partnership. They already target an enthusiast niche with the ROG line.
The Nothing Phone 3 uses an SD 8s Gen 4, which is not Qualcomm's "flagship" SOC, and it would be stretching the definition of "major" OEM, but who knows? This seems the most likely after Asus.
Moto's only flagship Snapdragon phone is the Razr Ultra, which I guess is possible. It'd be weird, but hey, I'd buy one.
OnePlus has been moving in the opposite direction for years now, locking things down more and more. I think they're too big for their britches at this point.
Sony's flagships are crazy expensive, well beyond the price of Pixels. They also don't cover the US market, though I'm not sure how important that is to the Graphene devs.
HMD doesn't make any phones with flagship SOCs. I think their best is the Skyline, with a 7s gen 2, Qualcomm's fourth-tier SOC line (the "s" stands for shitty).
Fairphone doesn't use flagship Snapdragons and GOS has had some pretty nasty things to say about them in the past.
Samsung is a pipe dream. They'd have no motivation. The entire GOS user base would be a rounding error to them.
On a global scale, Xiaomi would be a huge get. Not sure I see any of the Chinese OEMs focusing on this though.
Lenovo and Blackberry...might still exist? I think?
Honestly can't imagine any chinese manufacturer partnering with a free and open Android OS. Even though it would be cool, since their phones usually have decent hardware
I pray that my Pixel 9 is my last Pixel.
That may be a monkey's paw wish.
He'll use that phone for the next 20 years as it's the last one on the planet with an unlocked bootloader
Could Fairphone count as a "Major" Android OEM ?
They do use snapdragon chips, are priced roughly the same as the pixels, and might align the most with a project like Graphene and its values ?
One can dream…
I hope its blackberry, id love to see them re-enter the market, and i'd love an excuse to buy one.
Fuck! I brought a pixel just for GrapheneOS 2 months ago. Hoping they would continue the support.
They haven't named the company yet or shown prototypes, so this is probably a couple years away. I'm on Pixel 8 right now, and I'll probably buy the latest Pixel that can still run Graphene next time I get a new phone.
Honesty I would just wait it out if I were you. I really regret getting the pixel 9 (since my last phone broke).
There is nothing new in the pixel 10 the only area that desperately needed improvement was the battery which is just as bad if not worse than the 9 and the modem still sucks. It is not fully bad but because of low reception it fights harder to get signal and therefore burns away the battery even faster.
They will most definitely continue the support for existing Pixel models.
Would love to see oneplus support.
For my brokes ass I'm just going to keep buying secondhand last-gen pixels, but its good for the overall market to get an expansion in grapheneOS support.
i hope grapheneos keeps supporting pixels, if possible. i liked pixels way before I discovered grapheneos due to the cameras that I still think are on top in the android world, and when I became privacy conscious it was a perfect add on to an already nice phone imo.
Please let it be Nothing or OnePlus 🙏