I guess, at the end of the day, there is always hunting and gathering. We are moving forward into the future at light speed!
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Those family farmers are all millionaires. They want those tax cut plus the socialist policies that made them rich. They wanted to screw everyone over while they got richer.
It's not crazy. Voting should be decided by what is best for the country. Not being bribed by some government program is a good thing.
However, I don't believe that that is the thought process of this hypothetical Nebraskan farmer.
Can't make more land any easier than taking it
A coworker was just complaining to me about "Biden's Bullshit" for the reason his utility bill is massive. He lives in Florida. I used to live in Florida and now Oregon. Oregon has regulations because it's not a shit hole state.
do they have ai datacenters there, i wouldnt be surprised if the electric bill is higher too. Florida is going under water, plus so much invasive species there, because of illicit exotic pet/plant trade.
About 20 years ago, I wrote a mobile app for a company that surveys power lines all over the rural South and cuts away trees and vegetation that threatens the lines. In most places, the landowners are compensated for any trees that have to be cut down, with a variable scale that pays more the rarer the tree is. This has created a cottage industry where landowners plant all sorts of exotic shit directly under the power lines as a guaranteed cash crop. It's certainly an under-appreciated source of invasive species.
I can no longer feel any sympathy, I just enjoy seeing them suffer and die. They would have thought the same for me.
You forgot the next step. After losing their farm to trumps policies they blame democrats for it. You literally can’t make this shit up.
THANKS OBAMA!
You're welcome?
But before the last step, yo boy DJ Vance’s investment group will buy up the ‘distressed’ farm land for profit.
One of Peter Thiels folks will, JD hardly knows which end of the couch to stick it in.
and give it to perdue, tyson coporations.
i wish he'd stuck to bagging groceries.
after the large corporate farms: tyson, perdue, foster,,,etc graciously allows them to work on the farms they now own, they blame the dems after that.
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thats what fox, newsmaxs, OAN tells them to believe.
But you see, it's worth it because, um, fuck those illegals stealing jobs.
You know, the ones that work on said farm.
he said he loves the uneducated for a reason.
FAFO
You used almost slave labour in the form of migrants workers, and paid them in government money so you could continue to be a farmer and not have to sell up to some multinational agri-corp.
But then you voted for trump because other people said foreigners were taking your job, and because your a fucking gormless mouth breather.
the farm owners are whining, they have to do REAL FARM WORK, that the hardworking migrants are doing.
But the Democrats want to tie government funding to responsible environmental practices like reducing nitrogen fertilizer runoff and manure leaks, and they might mandate slightly less inhumane conditions for animals in feed lots. The horror! /s
If people had just kept their mouth quiet, stuck their nose up and voted blue, they could still to this day happily be exploiting poor foreigners in slave like conditions. Trump has ruined America!
The USA has always been a horrid country but to act like neoliberal Democrats are the same as the warmongering fascists that make up the Republican party is pretty fucking stupid.
The American population could have voted in Harris and then pushed for change but instead voted in a party that is repeatedly pushing for the invasion of Canada, Greenland/Denmark and Panama while also ACTIVELY bombing Venezuelan fishing boats in an attempt to instigate a perpetual war.
Fuck off with the whataboutism
They're not the one doing whataboutism. The topic of discussion was the impacts of farming and the use of migrant labor. "Whataboutism" is leveraging an off-topic criticism to distract from something that disproves your belief. As an example, imagine someone who was both unable to defend the exploitive labor practices Harris advocates for, so they suddenly pivot to talking about something wildly unrelated like military policy.
they dint want a women, especially a POC one in power. besides from supporting Israel, its only her sex that bothered male voters, when pressed, they give the excuse of "not liking her, or dont know her policies,,,etc" they can say they hate women, but are too afraid to say it out loud.
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The DNC also expanded pathways to citizenship as part of their bipartisan border security bill. I think there is a pretty stark distinction between slave labor and "almost slave labour", for example the private prison complex is salivating at turning the new Trump migrant detention facilities into actual slave labor.
Part of the reason why some farmers voted for trump (not the majority but some) was that american workers would consider farm jobs beneath them, and both americans and undocumented workers could always transfer to other jobs / farms if the conditions were unfavorable. Instead, they want to drive workers towards H2A visa to create modern slavery where workers have their pasports taken, are beaten and their families threatened by American companies
Trump rolled back protections for these workers earlier this year
they just want to Pay them less, and no benefits. so they can reap in all the profits. plus its also harder to exploit a citizen, because they will start reporting the farm owners for unfavaroable conditions, or bring the press(news) on them, plus they would ask for benefits and a higher wage, which they deserve. migrant workers arnt going to do this.
also the fact that other jobs pay better, and its not brutal on the body. even places like walmart, target,or some warehouse, or grocery store workers have better pay and not working brutal hours/physicial labor.
And it’ll still be Biden/Democrat’s fault.
Straight up most republicans/conservatives, especially the older set, as a rule do not change their minds or opinions about things nor do they take new or corrected information into account. Whatever the first knowledge they acquire on any subject is the truth and always will be the truth.
Anecdote: My wife & I have turned her mother & step-father away from the GOP. In their 70's.
Heads up, you can say "bitch." The post and you are both on L.W, the no-no word filters are only on .ml.
My political beliefs are now called Bitch Democracy, which makes it unassailable to tankies.
Whaaaaaat!? No fucking way!
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Isn't that called Karma instead of crazy?
But THE ILLEGALS!!!
I'm surrounded by MAGA Idiots and farmers and part of me can only laugh at them while the other part of me is sad Vance will win by scooping up their farms on acretraders.
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Nazis gonna Naz.
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