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[–] CAWright@infosec.pub 72 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Isn't this basically what religion does, as well?

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago

Some religions.

At-will employment too.

"You're nothing special - easily replaceable. I'm doing you a favour by letting you have this job."

Basically anywhere where a power imbalance is an intended feature, not a necessary evil.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In a broader sense, it is what cults do.

"Nobody accepts you... but us" "You will die alone... unless you help us" and so forth.

or... "They just can't take a joke... but we can"

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[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This is essentially cult tactics, yeah. As much as I loathe incels... Some of them genuinely need help.

The ones who are in too deep to literally start calling women "foids" tho? Throw them in the woodchipper. Dick first.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

They're in a decentralized cult. They all need help, but some of them need a lot more help before they're going to be release candidate males

[–] anytimesoon@piefed.social 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ive never heard that term before. I'm guessing it's some sort of shortening of "femoid" (a word I believe to have made up right now, but can imagine incels using regularly)

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry to tell you you're exactly right.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

a word I believe to have made up right now

if only

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[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yes, that's literally a shortening of that, and "femoid" was a word they DID use constantly. And then they shortened it further to disguise it more, I guess. I'm sorry you had to find it out this way :|

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

thats why conservatives have captured them as voters, give them something to hate: women, trans people,,,etc/.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 44 points 1 week ago (17 children)

5'8" (1.73m) here. Married for 13 years.

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A touch shorter and celebrated 24 years married last month.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've seen 5'2" guys who are regularly seeing incredibly attractive women.

I also know a guy whose face is not what one would call conventionally attractive but his personality means he's often had his pick of men and women because he just feels good to spend time with.

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[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 20 points 1 week ago

Conversely, I'm 6'2" and chronically single

[–] stillwater@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

5'3" (1.6m) and closing in on 25 years. It's amazing how far a bit of kindness, compassion, and a sense of humor can go.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 39 points 1 week ago

It was an abusive exwife in my case, but yes. It's abuse all the same. It does the same thing.

It isolates, it breaks you down, it makes you forget who you were, and then when you least expect it, they are no longer dependable for anything and you have nothing left.

And they feel nothing.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yup, that's why tate sold the worst dating advice in the world while being a sex trafficker, ensuring repeat business.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

The solution to many problems in our Society is to make fraud laws stronger and prosecute them more fully

and "get rick quick" schemes with extremely bad trading advice, which require high memberships.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Study on men who are chronically single showed the common denominator: having extremely low confidence. Now that I think about it, this post corroborates the target profile of negging by abusers-- victims who have low self-esteem.

There are, for the lack of a better word, not so good looking men or short men having relationships, in one form or another, with ridiculously good looking women because these men have confidence without being too bragadacious. Of course, there are shallow women who go for looks alone (same as men), but there are just as many kind-hearted and less shallow women who prefer men with personality over looks and vice versa.

Low confidence and self-critical thoughts are what impedes chronically single men. Sometimes, it is indeed on the state of mind. And this vulnerability of lonely men is exploited by manosphere to create incels. I don't have a solution to address the problem but this is a general observation.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (15 children)

so many comments claiming this post blames or makes fun of men and incels that i went back and reread the whole thing... what the fuck are the lot of you even responding to‽ there's nothing like that in the post, and on the contrary it says men are victimized by this. Jesus, some of you are really willing to take anything as a slight. beats self reflection i guess.

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[–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

this post brings up some good points, but I want to be clear that turning men into women hating incels who will die alone is the GOAL of all this rhetoric. it doesn't have to be that way.

if your reaction to this post is "women bad" you should take a step back and realize they've already gotten you to take the first step down the pipeline.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Podcast episode #120 (Invicil) from Reply All should be required listening in this day and age.

Invicil: How a shy, queer Canadian woman accidentally invented one of the internet’s most toxic male communities.

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[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Manosphere being a toxic shitshow of harmful beliefs and self-sabotag is nothing new.

But in 1 way, it is very different to an abusive boyfriend. The abusive bf doesn't necessarily start off being abusive or not as obviously so. The bf adapts to you and slowly undermines your confidence. The manosphere has it in their advertising material. The people fall for the manosphere are not slowly manipulated and abused by the manosphere. The manosphere is the new abusive boyfriend after the breakup with the last abuser. When the abuse already has been normalised and kinda wanted because at least it is "familiar".

So what is the first "abusive boyfriend"?

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[–] Zaplinaki@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

be 5' 7"

not attractive to most women (aww)

every airplane seat feels like first class

live longer on average (aww)

workout once a week and look buff

no car is too small

sleep like a king in beds of any size

women generally trust you more easily cos your presence is non-threatening

You know it's not that bad of a trade. Y'all sixfooters have fun with the girls.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I'm not quite 5'8, and I was in the Marines, where obviously size was made to be something, especially in the infantry, but I always used to just tell dudes that I'm harder to shoot, and in the unlikely event they get me before you, I'm easier to carry to safety. Fucking win-win as far as I'm concerned.

And with those days long behind me, and married with a short wife and hort kids of my own, I'm the biggest thing in the world to them. So just find an equally short person to spend your life with. Or don't, nothing matter!

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 7 points 1 week ago

I'm gay and everyone is the same height to me once you get 'em horizontal

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[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kinda reminds me of boot camp, using psychological attacks to break down men's will and have him disregulated and complient

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 week ago (29 children)

This is top tier gaslighting. I dont know why people bend over backwards to blame anyone but women for the 6ft meme. Manosphere reacted to a real thing and grifted off it growing it into political campaigning but is was real sentiment experienced by men. I'm not short and I see it happen all the time. Women are open about it.

Before the 6ft meme the redpill meme for guys was to laugh at tall guys and call them skeles until height became a desirable trait and it reversed with short dudes getting laughed at for being manlets.

It used to be niche and restricted to internet cesspits but YouTube and tiktok really brought the most toxic parts of the redpill, pua and lookism into the mainstream. It started ironic as a joke mocking lookism but kids got sucked in hard and lines blurred.

I'm still pissed these people have managed to infect so much of the male fitness community.

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[–] certified_expert@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a sphere made out of naked men. It's a dangerous weapon because of its incredible sexiness.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

lol, quite literally blaming men for everything as usual.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Honestly you arent fucking wrong.

If a woman has a series of bad experiences with a series of asshole dudes and decides she is done with it and would rather be single everyone claps because she is empowered. If a guy has a series of bad experiences with a series of just horrible women and decides he is done with it and would rather be single he is an incel and men are the problem.

Some dudes are incels because being a garbage human being with no regard for the feelings of others isnt limited to men. Women can say and do cruel shit too. I watched my 5'3 buddy ask a girl out and get "Ewww" instead of "No thank you" this shit doesnt happen in a vacuum.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Mysoginists don't represent men, like misandrists don't represent women.

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[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (12 children)

"OMG these people are incel losers they have no worth and deserve to die!"

"Incel losers" commits a horrific crime because they were treated like they have no worth and deserve to die

"OMG can you believe it? We should bully them harder, that will fix things!"

Maybe the fucking problem is people treating these poor people so horribly. We want to PREVENT such things happening which means addressing the root of the problem and trying to catch people who could fall into those destructive manoaphere circles BEFORE they get the idea to commit mass murder. I'm PRETTY positive the solution isn't to bully them more.

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