LOL! The only time I did an oil change at Canadian Tire, the mechanic asked me what oil they should put. I told them it was literally written on the cap.
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I think the question was more in the sense of "synthetic or regular", there's a price and a functional difference.
Both will work, but synthetic will last longer because it resists shearing better.
OK. Seriously. Canadian Tire is not the place to expect anything mechanical to be done right. Hell, I had to take a tire back to them 3 times to get the valve stem sealed, they can't even do tires correctly.
Don't get repairs done at Crappy Tire.
We have a mechanic in my hometown, who is probably the best mechanic in town, without refute. Unfortunately he's had a bit of a drinking problem over the years, and naturally that's led to a few run ins with the law. Most of the local shops wouldn't have nothing to do with him later in his career, probably because of the insurance. Except Canadian Tire, which is where he ended up as the place of last resort. Thus it became the one and only Canadian Tire, on the planet, I would ever feel comfortable taking my car to.
Every other CT though, hell no.
I had a set of snow tires installed and they didn't balance them.
I live in a rich neighborhood and my Cambodia tire is surprisingly competent and see a lot of luxury brands move through there somehow
Easy enough to say if you're familiar with cars, car maintenance, and Canadian Tire.
But this is a service they're offering to people who know less about any of that than themselves who will assume they are doing a competent job
Hence the warning.
TFA really overstates the importance of the part in question. The part is typically is plastic, and serves primarily an aerodynamic function, improving fuel mileage, with a secondary function protecting the engine bay and limiting ingress of dust and debris. It’s really not a critical part and typically replacing every bolt with a zip tie of sufficient size (that is important) would be enough to hold it in place. It is indeed quite common for the bolts to be replaced with zip ties; often the bolts are weird shapes and sizes and threading. In fact, several cars I’ve worked on have used plastic screws which wouldn’t have significantly greater strength than a zip tie.
But in this car it’s metal, which makes me wonder if it’s a semi-structural component and therefore the zip ties wouldn’t hold, though this is again a pretty uncommon configuration outside of convertibles (which need reinforcement as they lose the roof structure). The photo in TFA shows some very thin sheet metal, and I don’t think that it is structural in any way.
In any case, if a shield falls off your car and it makes you drive into a ditch, particularly after you’re made aware there is a problem, I’m not sure you’re really prepared to safely operate a 1500kg wheeled vehicle at 100kph.
The photo in TFA shows some very thin sheet metal, and I don’t think that it is structural in any way.
If it's thin metal it's a heat shield. Putting nylon straps on a heat shield is just stupid. But, bad news guys, most shops, including dealer service, just throw these shields out. This is one reason why I change my own oil.
I don’t think that’s a heat shield; all it would be shielding is the ground from the engine. It’s right under the oil pan.
- 1 for doing your own oil change. Gives you a chance to inspect for fuckery.
But in this car it’s metal, which makes me wonder if it’s a semi-structural component and therefore the zip ties wouldn’t hold,
Even if it isn’t structural in the least, the massively increased stiffness of metal over even thick plastic means that even pretty minimal flexing of the vehicle’s chassis would eagerly shear any size of plastic zip ties off.
This is very much a consequence of paying technicians among the lowest wage in the industry and failing to mentor them effectively. Not to mention being ignored, unsupported, and abused by Manglement.
I love Canadian Tire for its breadth of products, and have almost always found the staff there to be eager and helpful, but I don’t make use of their vehicle services for a damn good reason.
The metal probably is sharper too, and harder. It’s an opportunity to tell the customer that something broke and they should come back tomorrow and get it fixed for 1/4 hr labour, or it may fall off in the near future.
The tech cut corners and the chain may suck, but I object to the way the article presents the issue. It’s not like they zip tied brakes on.
It’s just a splash shield under the engine, it is not a “critical” part of the car, it’s as critical as a mudflap. Pretty much every Civic of this generation on the road has it held on with just zip ties at this point, unless it has just been tossed in the trash. There is no way this affected the acceleration or speed of the vehicle. The shield gets trashed due to snow/ice damage, and the bolts all seize which rip out the nuts from the shield when you try and unscrew them.
it's critical if you park on tall grass in a dry field.
Not really. The only part of a car that is hot enough to ignite grass is the cat converter, and this shield does not cover it. And cars before 2010 or so never had a shield like this. It is purely for fuel effiency.
FTA:
some of those zip ties snapped — dragging part of the metal plate under his car at highway speeds, causing him to slam into a ditch.
Sounds pretty damn critical to me.
Most mechanics, including dealership mechanics, simply discard the heat shield when the thin aluminum gets brittle. BUT, they should tell the owner and give them the option to replace it, which no one does because of the cost.
That’s complete bullshit. It is only there to help fuel economy a bit, it is paper thin aluminium, about half the thickness of a licence plate. You can fold it in half with one hand. Sounds like someone drove into the ditch and is trying to find someone to blame and cover the costs because they don’t have insurance.
This isn't a new problem.
Canadian Tire has always hired inexperienced "mechanics" and paid them as little as possible.
Before i could drive, I remember my dad's friends all complaining about their first and last experience having work done on their cars at CanTire.
Canadian Tire has always hired inexperienced “mechanics” and paid them as little as possible.
Their mechanics are all licenced. This is not a Canadian Tire problem, it's a trades certification problem and Ontario has basically eliminated trades certification inspectors since the fat man took over. It's also impossible to report a mechanic. I had one sign off on a motorcycle safety with no working brakes.
Their mechanics are all licenced
I didn't say unlicensed, I said inexperienced and underpaid.
I work at Canadian Tire in Nova Scotia. At this location, the mechanics are paid a flat rate for each repair. They aren't going to spend very much extra time on a job if something goes wrong. This is a Canadian Tire problem.
It's an industry wide problem.
A few decades ago I took my car to crappy tire. They did the work but held the car hostage. They said that further work was needed to be done and said it would be unsafe to release the vehicle. Was so long ago I forgot what I did about it but I have never taken vehicle back to them again.
They said that further work was needed to be done and said it would be unsafe to release the vehicle.
they legally have to do that.
Canada does not do vehicle inspections for safety unless the car is sold. In most european countries, you need a MOT safety test every two years after 4 years of car life. Canada we let rotting pickups drive until they shed wheels.
They can't hold the car hostage either though. Show up with a trailer and cart it out of there.
I’ve got a single similar (yet not as potentially deadly) Canadian Tire story about the mechanic winging it and failing to inform.
Single because it’s the one and only time I’ve taken my car to a CT for servicing.
I just haven’t trusted since then that CT has the necessary processes and procedures in place to prevent stuff like this, instead leaving things up to the individual mechanic who is under pressure to just get the job done, and who feels anonymous under the CT banner.