this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2025
74 points (93.0% liked)

Asklemmy

50955 readers
404 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy πŸ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS
 

If you think this started with Silicon Valley that's a mistake

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago
[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The scary part of this one is that previously, we had administrations that, while still being right-of-center (yes ML, I know), had at least enough sense to prop things up well enough to recover.

I don’t have faith that the fascist goons will take any steps to properly protect anything (regardless of whether its the ideal system or not) and just let everything fall apart.

Considering all the damage just seems to be blatant wrecker shit trump is doing as β€œrevenge” for who knows what, probably having his pedo time taken away by the imperial core (and under his watch too) I think he wants this place to burn and cooking us all is his sick revenge fetish at this point.

Fucking prick

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

The problem is that they kept propping things up and mitigating losses from those with wealth, i.e. protecting boomers.

Recessions hurt, but they are historically a natural method of wealth redistribution. In a recession, people with stuff lose much more than the people without stuff, and then on the way back out the people without stuff now have a better chance to capture some of that wealth.

Same for war. Historically speaking.

[–] b34k@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Kind of reminds me of how our 100 year long strategy of putting out all forest fires as soon as the first spark erupts, has lead to large buildups of brush and growth, that under normal circumstances would have been burnt back, sparing the large trees and forest as A whole… but now provides so much fuel, that any fire now is not only an unstoppable force, it also kills any and every thing leaving the forests irrecoverable.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The scary part of this one is that previously, we had administrations that, while still being right-of-center (yes ML, I know), had at least enough sense to prop things up well enough to recover.

I'll admit I haven't cataloged all financial crises in American history, but I can't think of any right-of-center administrations that have cleaned up a things for a recovery. Perhaps only exception might be the Oil Crisis under Carter, and the recovery under Reagan. Great depression, Black Monday, Great Recession, COVID recession, all happened under right-of-center Presidents and recovered under left-of-center Presidents.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

You're misreading them, the DNC is at most right of center. The left begins at socialism.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

What a stupid fucking thing to say. Socialism changes with nationality if you were half as capable as you delude yourself into thinking you are, the difference would be your catalyst.

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

No he's right. There are no politicians with any real power in North America who are anywhere close to left. Dems are right and Reps are fascist. It's right and super-right in the US. Canada isn't doing any better.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Lol huh what suck my dick you dumb cunt i am here targeting a specific individual in a personal attack

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

As I explained to you elsewhere:

The only reason dicksucking is usable as a pejorative is to draw on historic sexism and homophobia, and telling someone to suck your dick draws on that social trauma. Telling someone to give you a haircut, for example, is still a service but doesn’t have that social trauma to make it a pejorative, and thus it doesn’t hit like one.

It's basically drawing on SA to be used as an insult. If you don't think telling someone to suck your dick is drawing on historic bigotry towards groups that traditionally do that, then I'd like to know why you think it works as an insult.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

Too much time has passed if you come at me with something remotely intelligible Imabenoid how could I ever respond!? Tomorrow you rotted fuck, ferment on it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 41 minutes ago

This might come as a surprise, but I'm not glued to Lemmy.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Your false equivalence as an argument? You only got away with that because I was banned from replying. High thanks for bringing it up tho because I am pretty sure it stems from your own homophobia and I suspect we can get to the bottom of it.

I can accept the misogynist aspect of such a statement but i refuse the homophobic aspect of sucking dick, I recognize your experience with SA and BJ's. Are you giving me permission to proceed because I don't want to be a cunt uninvited.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

I don't have personal experience with SA, nor am I homophobic. I'm pansexual myself. It isn't at all a false equivalence to say that there's a real difference in insult between telling someone to give you a haircut and telling someone to suck your dick. They are both services, but the latter draws stigma from historical sexism and homophobia. Using dicksucking as an insult affirms that history of bigotry, when in reality we should be fighting the negative stigma surrounding sexuality from women and gay men.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

Bud I am not going to read further then you denying SA. I am truly sorry that happened to you but I will not partake in your internet ego, not like this.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

I don't think it's a good idea to mock SA. There's no ego involved, I haven't been a victim of SA, and it's incredibly rude to those who have been victims to treat it like an insult to be flung at people you don't like.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago) (1 children)

I think your attempt to use SA against me backfired and you revealed yourself to be a projector. Please seek help. If you feel this is diminishing I cannot help you I can only help you realize you are wrong.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)

I have never once tried to use SA against anyone.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 31 minutes ago (2 children)
[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

wait wait wait wait wait you fucking mean you were the one to commit SA? Your peers will que me to kill you.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 minutes ago

No? Never said that.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)

Well evidently you did try to use SA against me it really is not up for discussion we can all see it... Entirely unfounded mind you hence the suspicion of you projecting. Please brus get some help I mean I literally don't care no but I appreciate the concept of someone thinking I cared?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 minutes ago (1 children)

I have never used SA against you. I've said that telling users to suck your dick draws on the history of SA going back thousands of years in order to be hurtful as an insult (alongside misogny and homophobia), not that either of us has committed SA.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

If given the opportunity I will murder you. This is an invitation to any individuals out there that know this person needs to perish.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean by saying "socialism changes with nationality?"

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

by saying? by saying????? them words capture all of what i am saying. Do you want to ask another way?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How does socialism "change" by "nationality?"

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So the reason you aren't as accepted as you think you need to be is because you have a particular brand of socialism. To the west socialism is healthcare it is police accountability it is political fairness. None of these things apply to your concept of socialism because socialism is not an ideology it is, say it with me, social....... pee my pants. no wait i mean ism in my pants. You can apply your brand but I will be here to fuck that brand in the face because you are the enemy of society by associating social......ism community.....ism with dictator....ism.

You never claimed to assert freedom for society, community but you do think dictating is part of your cause. Because it is but you aren't socialist at best you are marxist a fucking brand. A fucking brand give me face value capitalism you dumb cunt.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So it sounds like you're trying to say what people think socialism is changes from place to place. That's generally true for most political concepts, but that doesn't mean there isn't an actual consistent and correct definition. Even in the west, the idea that socialism is just social programs isn't an absolute, people are quite capable of understanding that it's when public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working class is control.

As for me, I am a Marxist-Leninist, sure. I don't see what you mean by saying I'm "not a socialist, at best I'm a Marxist." Marxism is historically the most significant branch of socialism, alongside anarchism, I don't see how Marxism could be considered not socialist. I also don't "defend dictators."

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yep you confirmed my assertion with no rebuttable maybe a tingle but where is your acknowledgement of saying dumb shit in the first place?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I didn't confirm your assertion. I acknowledged that people are often mistaken, and this varies by location, and responded with the correct definition as has been most consistent historically and currently. Liberals believing socialism to merely be social programs isn't a "western" thing, it's a lack of education on what socialism actually is.

And no, I never said "dumb shit," so there's nothing to admit to there.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If intent mattered you wouldn't have revealed yourself to me. Impact matters that is why we are talking. So lets get past what you think you intend and lets accept the impact of your choice of words and how fucking stupid you are for making blatant mistakes in judgement. Your stupidity was a journey but I am your destination. Full disclosure, I made a point to never learn marxism. So.. Let us get to it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm open, I "reveal myself" to everyone. Rather, I don't hide anything. The impact of my choice of words is that people generally understand that capitalism is right wing, and socialism is left wing, ie private ownership as principle as right wing and public ownership as principle as left wing.

Genuinely don't understand what you're trying to do or why.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Oh but you don't get to chose impact that's the difference between intent and impact. Nice try tho it's fun to see you stray from your message and appeal for relevance.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is this a bit where you try and be nonsensical? Because this makes no sense.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

k but I insist on the last word.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I never strayed from my "message." I'm not sure what you think "my message" is.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is weak shit you are making me feel bad

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The left begins at socialism.

If you're talking about the political spectrum I would think the extreme far left would begin at anarchism and eventually graduate to socialism as you move farther right.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

Anarchism and Marxism are generally not any more or less "left." When I say the left begins at socialism, I mean to be considered left wing, you must be at least socialist.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

If you live long enough, you've been through a number of bubbles. For me thats:

  • Black Monday (1987)
  • Dot com bubble (2000) which also bled into 9/11 economics impacts
  • Great Recession (2008)
  • COVID (2020)

The next bubble will just be another. Economy will slow, value of most assets will drop. Jobs will be lost, homes foreclosed on...and then the recovery will begin again. We'll look in the mirror shocked we survived it then in a few years we'll completely forget about it and be terrified of the next bubble.

So, prepare by living within you means, take care of yourself and your loved ones, and just be ready to weather the next storm. We'll get through that one too.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago

Covid wasn't a "bubble".

Or if it was, it was all the over investment in entertainment and productivity tools. In which case, that popped around 2023 when everything got cancelled and RTO layoffs started.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

While the rich get richer and more people get poorer.

[–] drwho@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I don't expect to live long enough to retire. Any hope that I'd eventually be able to retire and enjoy life for a change went out the window in 2008 when the housing bubble popped.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments
view more: next β€Ί