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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/37218429

When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

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[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 116 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Cancelled my years long subscription today. Any company that bows down to tRump should be avoided. Vote with your wallet.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 month ago

I did the same! No more proton unlimited! It is better to use products from multiple companies instead of one.

[–] Typhoonigator@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Who did you switch to? I'm looking to leave proton too with all this.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Typhoonigator@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Have you used these 3 before (or currently)?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

I've used bitwarden and mulvad for years. Recommend both without hesitation.

[–] Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've been using Tuta since 2016, on paid plan since 2019.

Outside a single longer outage early on I had nothing but good experience with their service. Granted, I only care about email and calendar (the only two products they have at the moment) but both work without any issues.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

I heard they’re good and I have just recently created accounts for them.

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[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also curious. I left Mullvad because they stopped supporting port forwarding. Proton seemed like the best second option privacy/feature/price wise at the time. IVPN was touted highly around that time, but it appears they have also phased out port forwarding

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I believe AirVPN is the last respected VPN that allows port forwarding.

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[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

for mail, Mailbox.org (originally I said posteo but I was unable to get the payment to go through. idk why). For drive, calendar, contacts, passwords, I'm working on setting up nextcloud but it's not ready yet. I still have a few months before I'm downgraded. for VPN, I'm still looking for alternatives.

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 86 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The post was deleted and they are in cleanup mode. Best thing we can do is post this everywhere and demand a public apology and the firing of Andy Yen.

Otherwise end your subscriptions!

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

What is the Streisand effect?

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 month ago

We can demand his firing but unfortunately he's one of three founders, he's unlikely to be fired. But I hope it's a wakeup call to them that they should have a policy of keeping their mouth shut on politics, including all board members.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Grrrreat... Can anyone please suggest an alternative? I've switched to Proton trying to de-Google...

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 69 points 1 month ago (10 children)

For Email: Posteo, Tutanota, Disroot

For VPN: Mullvad, AirVPN, IVPN

For password manager: Keypassxc, Bitwarden

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[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been looking at fastmail and tuta

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 78 points 1 month ago

Guy who sells VPNs really supportive of political party that blocks parts of the internet regionally

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago

This comment right here absolutely nails it.

The Republicans have installed a Supreme Court that guts antitrust at every step, and Andy gives them a pass. Anyone that's that bloody oblivious of how the GOP have spent 25 years trying to remove consumer protections at every turn shouldn't be managing a popsicle stand, let alone an email service so many rely on to be private.

What a redundant muffin.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 month ago

When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take:

That makes it seem like Andy here just doubled down, but it's way worse than that. The company released an official statement doubling down on Yen's stance.

[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It seems obvious to me now.

Many US states are now requiring age verification for adult sites. VPN companies will benefit if that requirement expands. The Republican party's pearl-clutching politics are what can make that happen.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Reminds me of the time the CEO of grindr said he opposed gay marriage.

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[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago

Believing in any way that Republicans are helping out the little guy or against big business is so ridiculous I have to believe this is willful ignorance to cover up the fact that a lot more people will need VPNs with all the porn bans and other privacy nightmares the right will pass the next few years.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is bewildering. What a shame.

I had minor gripes with some of their services but Proton has broadly been pretty great in my eyes.

Some CEOs baffle me. Surely, even if they are massive fans of one US political party over the other, they'd have the sense to keep it to themselves to prevent it becoming a thing that causes a fallout with existing/potential customers? But no. They're too fucking narcissistic for that, and they think everyone wants to hear their opinions and follow them.

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Most of the companies/ceos doing this over the past few weeks do know better. That's why they didnt say anything earlier. The reason they would be publicly taking this stance now is that they either expect to be rewarded by the incoming administration, or they hope to avoid punitive retaliation.

[–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 34 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Cancelled my subscription today. I will be finding an alternative.

[–] ThePrivacyPolicy@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had just signed up a few nights ago to try it out before subscribing, it's an easy cancel at this point and is being done momentarily.

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[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Me being too lazy and putting off switching to Proton has paid off!

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Canceled my sub last night, ported everything to Tuta today. No issues this far.

Super disappointing, but is what it is and I'll move on.

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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So we're keeping Lina Kahn, right? RIGHT?

[–] R3D4CT3D@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago

im definitely gonna miss her.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thank you for using a less charged title in the cross-post. It's concerning stuff coming from the Proton CEO and Andy Yen using the official account to amplify it. However, I disagreed with it being characterized as "Full MAGA".

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

what the fuck???? literally HOW did he reach that conclusion
Anyone got a email site that won't shut down or turn fascist?

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

FastMail has been around a long time and they're very good. MXRoute is good too and lets you have unlimited email addresses at an unlimited number of domains (they only limit it based on storage space)

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

People here need to read about how fascism in Germany and Italy were good for business but terrible for the workers. About how the moneyed interests played a role in the rise of fascism in both as a defense mechanism against unions and socialism.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Support business policies of a group that removes oversight, accountability, responsibility, and makes it so he keeps more money.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Anyone notice Trump clearly didn't write that, because it's clearly written? Remember how bugfuck he was getting over the last year and how we rarely see that anymore?

Just how bugfuck is he now and who's controlling him?

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really don't understand this compulsion people have to publicly announce their political support.

Like, this guy could have just said nothing, literally just not do anything, and he'd be better off.

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[–] lung@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

The most interesting part of this take is that JD Vance is very much in the big tech friends circle with Thiel and Musk. But I'm sure they can run some antitrust against their enemies at Google or whatever

[–] treasoner@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

Republicans haven’t stood for the little guy for at least….40 years?

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a shame I have a year subscription to them. I'll be cancelling and moving the second it runs outs.

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cancel it now so you dont forget it while it autorenews.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Already did!

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