spujb

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 minutes ago

This is a separate issue entirely. The fact the admin got “ahead of the bullet” by making a PTB post about the reaction to their action doesn’t mean they are magically immune from discussion of the actions that started things, that being slapfights and direct account termination threats.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

fully agree! especially the part about it only being in a single community thats a key fact i should have mentioned :)

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 9 hours ago

Yes. We agree. The admin has a right to address the issue they perceive. And as I said right after, users have the right to know that this is the swift, emotionally charged, and overbearing due process that the admin may choose to implement.

If there were any written rules or good faith communication of instance standards I would not be making this post.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

ah in that case i stand corrected :(

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 9 hours ago

I certainly feel there is room for growth and improvement in that individual admin.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

of course i don’t have communication with those who downvoted, but my knee jerk worry is the downvotes were due to the nonspecificity of the title. not sure of course but that is my thought.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe -3 points 10 hours ago

here you seem to equate “users can post at a high volume if they follow the other rules” with “nothing the user does can ever be wrong” which NO one ever said

i hope the absurdity of this is innately apparent lol

 

Summary:

  • @Cat@ponder.cat was posting at a high volume to !news@lemmy.world
  • there is no written rule on !news@lemmy.world about post volume
  • there is no written rule on ponder.cat about post volume
  • !news is the one single community Cat was this active in
  • !news has no ponder.cat mods
  • from my understanding, all rules Cat did break were unrelated to volume (correct me if I am wrong)
  • ponder.cat admin @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat reaches out to Cat via comment and then DM essentially threatening account deletion if Cat doesn’t lower their activity level
  • Cat understandably deletes their account because who wants that

Of course, PhilipTheBucket had the right to do this, but I also think it’s exceedingly bad form and people have a right to know that this admin is willing to go above the community mods’ head like that.

Internet etiquette has dictates for dealing with undesirable yet not rule-breaking behavior that was just ignored here. Communication should be chosen before simple fist waving and threats.

I agree with this comment that this is a bait-provoked reaction. Next time I recommend:

  • at the instance/admin level, the creation of instance rules about volume
  • at the community level, advocacy for community rules about volume (i.e. “[Meta] Petition: Limit daily submissions to !news to ensure community quality”)
  • avoid personal slapfights to get your way
  • avoid escalation directly to account termination threats

Source: https://ponder.cat/post/1731587

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe -5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

so did that actually happen? and if so why would you complain about it as a volume issue and not a self advertising issue?

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe -5 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

on the contrary it sounds insane to equate “posting with high volume” with “posting Nazi content” as though that’s a fair example you can use toward your argument at all

“people who post a lot are basically Nazis” ???? hello? lmao

if they are posting content that shouldn’t be there, report it. if the mods disagree, start a petition or encourage a migration. if you still can’t make change, use the block button. it’s really actually easy lol

 
 
 
 
 

There’s definitely some additional nuance (like a pronouns in bio/username situation) but this should cover the broad needs of anyone who is approaching this with good faith.

 

The community’s sidebar doesn’t list a single rule so I don’t know how they expect to get users to fall in line if it’s completely unspoken.

Anyway this is a rare case of a very tiny community where no one is getting hurt so it’s not a huge deal. But if you plan on discussing news using any kind of acronym I guess don’t go there lmao.

Thoughts welcome! Am I missing something?

 

For some reason whenever someone posts any news about Pixelfed one of the top comments is usually along the lines of “no dark mode, no use.” Boy do I have good news for those users!

Like the rest of the Fediverse, and unlike corporate media, there are multiple apps you can use! Examples:

This is also useful for users who have qualms about the Pixelfed dev’s more… distasteful? behavior (example I found today) and don’t rock with rewarding it, kind of like how a lot of Lemmy users might block or defederate the flagship .ml instance.

 
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