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It appears to me that the current state of Lemmy is similar to other platforms when they were smaller and more insular, and that insularity is somewhat protecting it.

I browse Lemmy, and it feels a bit like other platforms did back in 2009, before they became overwhelmed and enshitified.

If I understand it correctly, Lemmy has a similar "landed gentry" moderation scheme, where the first to create a community control it. This was easily exploited on other platforms, particularly in regards to astroturfing, censorship, and controlling a narrative.

If/when Lemmy starts to experience its own "eternal September", what protections are in place to ensure we will not be overwhelmed and exploited?

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[–] degen@midwest.social 24 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

To be optimistic, I'd hope the federation would be able to guard against deeper centralization like a more extreme .world or .ml, a la meta or whoever. There's always space for grassroots instances, and I'm pretty sure there will always be someone out there running something or with enough interest to learn.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 26 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It will still probably end up like email. There will be a working group, public or private, that defines minimum spam requirements. If you don't comply, you'll be defederated.

[–] degen@midwest.social 11 points 18 hours ago

You're totally right. My optimism gets around that by hoping if it isn't Lemmy, this federation, that federation, some other new initiative or tech, community will find a way to make itself. I guess my bigger worry is accessibility and notoriety/viability, but I think that will always come in time too. There are smart, willing people out there, and gathering is human instinct.

[–] SineIraEtStudio@midwest.social 14 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I agree with everything you said.

I'm thinking/hoping that this new wave of Europeans going to European instances will help spread out the centralization of .world and .ml, now and it'll hold into the future, but we'll see.

Hearing that several people have started country specific instances also gives me hope in this. With country/geographicly specific, topic specific, and just general instances, I think/hope it will lead to a more balanced user base.

[–] weremacaque@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Not just Europeans. I was talking to my roommate about how I deleted my Reddit accounts and fully committed to switching over to Lemmy, and his main concern was which instances were hosted in America so he could avoid them.

[–] SineIraEtStudio@midwest.social 1 points 8 hours ago

That's awesome to hear.

Hopefully, the newest reddit influx will be able to settle in without any/too many issues.

[–] degen@midwest.social 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I just made another comment that elaborated my stance more too.

I didn't realize there was a trend of European users. I haven't really thought about it, but Lemmy could use some sort of translation layer to facilitate multi-but-not-bilingual community. There's a lot of German, French, Spanish, and Portuguese speakers I'd probably love interacting with and would never know! For now I rely on bilingual non-English natives or the little French I remember and just lurk.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 11 hours ago

Lemmy has language tags. Clients could offer integration with translation tools.

[–] SineIraEtStudio@midwest.social 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't know how big the "wave" is but !buyeuropean@feddit.uk has jumped to the 11th(?) most popular/active community in the last week or so. The activity level reminds me of more niche subreddits, where you'd see a couple posts every hour through the day. Quite an increase over what it was at.

I also recall seeing a chart of a German (?) instance that had linear growth and over the past week it went exponential. I doubt the exponential growth will last more than a couple weeks before going back to linear, but still cool to see.

Edit: Added link to the community.