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[–] plm00@lemmy.ml 82 points 2 days ago (28 children)

It makes it more accessible to the lazy and talentless.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IDK. I don't like AI for commercial applications. But for frivolous things? That's it's critical application. I'm not taking food from the mouth of any artist if I post some AI meme image I generate onto a social media site. There is no universe where I'm paying an actual professional artist to make meme images for me to post to social media. I'll sometimes use AI slop, but only in slopworthy applications. Screwing around on fediverse and other sites is such a slopworthy application.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like this is what people don't see.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, I view AI slop images like I would any copy-pasted meme image from years past. Technically, we were all violating copyright when we screenshotted images from random sites and news events and turned them into memes. Some photographer took those shots, and we stole them and used them for cheap laughs. And no one cared, because again, no one was going to pay to license a photo for a random internet forum or social. No photographer was going hungry because of meme images.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (4 children)

As someone with the fine motor control of someone made of all elbows, who couldn’t hope to ever draw anything and who leaves that up to people with talent and work ethic for money, all of the cool things in my head that die there because they’re better in my imagination than I could ever express through words or art.

I feel seen.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Art is not about the destination. It's about the journey. Deaf compositors made music knowing they would never hear it.

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[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (23 children)

Give digital art programs a try. There's plenty of free alternatives to the big subscription model vultures out there, there's GIMP for image editing, Krita for drawing, Blender for 3D, DaVinci Resolve for video editing, Audacity and Pro Tools Free for sound recording and editing, you can even make modular synths using VCV Rack. And if you like rum and eye patches theres versions of the big players out there too.

I am absolutely shit at drawing, but professionally I make 3d animations, having drawing skills helps, but it's not necessary to learn any one of these.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

When these programs were new, "real" artists viewed them in the same way that AI is viewed now.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

And these tools ended up aiding artists rather than replacing them and these tools still require human competency and creativity to use. I don't type "make me picture of trump of trump as a sith lord" and some ugly collage of stolen artwork gets spit out without any human interaction or intention. Instead I have to actually make that or figure out how to make it work as a collage.

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[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

Have you tried pixel art?

[–] nightlily@leminal.space 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Isn’t creating art despite those obstacles meaningful though? Art is always going to be an imperfect copy of what is in our head and absolutely nothing about generative AI can possibly change that. But artists have intent and all their experience in every line they make - that’s part of the joy and tragedy of it and what makes it so human.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Yes.

In the same way that some people are satisfied with fast food, AI folks are satisfied with fast art - despite that they may be poisoning themselves.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's why it's so so so popular with conservatives (and fascist now). There is something about having skill in art that makes you a lot less likely to be conservative. It's about the material circumstances that lead people to become artists, I'd guess.

So now all these Nazis can make Trump memes by typing something stupid into a prompt. It's ugly. It's not intelligent or creative but it's just enough to spread their hateful propaganda. AI art is awful. But it's 100x better than what these fascist could ever hope to create.

Seriously. I feel like the only real use case for AI art right now is making awful fascist propaganda. At least it's the only area of "art" that is actually seeing "improvement" from it.

Which tells you a lot about how these fascist idiots complain about "culture" so much but have actually no culture or art of their own.

If you need a gross example just search for the AI Trump Gaza video. The purpose isn't art. But it's still serving the role that art plays in propaganda.

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