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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The thing to remember is that the united states doesn't want a Ukraine victory. Especially now, but even during Bidens time. The USA during Bidens time just wanted russias resources depleted. The USA under trump just wants russia to win, but they can't outright say that.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know which USA you're in, but over here we're all about a Ukraine victory and a stop to the war. Of course, MAGAts are dead confused because the Murdochian/Qanut sludge in their brain is messing with their heart. Those that aren't smart enough to try and be on the grifting side of the corrupt demented rapist regime, that is.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about the citizens. I'm talking about government. Biden gave Ukraine weapons, and said "Here ya go. Just enough to keep you in the war, but you're not allowed to use them on offense. Only defense of your own country. But we don't want the war to END!"

And trump straight up wants Ukraine to lose.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes the decision to prevent them from striking deep in russian territory was too long to be changed.

In the first few months of the war, it made sense. Look if you want to go to war with russia, just do it. It's probably not a terrific idea for some parts of the country though.

And 66.9 billion - if that's "enough to keep you in the war" how much is that going to cost us when we go in full-time? And that's not to mention the nukes which of course will now be front and center because the FEAR party is running things now.

And who the fuck said they didn't want the war to end? I'm not buying that at all.

Yes, trump is a puppet of russia, and a demented rapist, and a fool. No argument there.

[–] smokeysnilas@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Believe it or not, relative to the US economy the 66.9 billion is not much. But it's not actually about the money, a lot of that already was spent a long time ago on military hardware so the expense was already made. It's about whether you let Ukraine use these tools or decomission them inside the US, because that's whats happening with a lot of kit like Bradleys or Atacms. There's zero financial reason to not give those (except maybe for transportation cost).