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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth stated that restoring Ukraine’s pre-2014 borders is “unrealistic,” signaling a shift in U.S. policy toward negotiated settlements.

Speaking at NATO headquarters, he argued that pursuing full territorial recovery would prolong the war and emphasized the need for security guarantees without NATO membership or U.S. troops in Ukraine.

Hegseth outlined Trump’s approach of reducing Russian war funding through increased U.S. energy production while shifting more military support responsibility to Europe.

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[–] CitricBase@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Putin's puppet administration says NATO should cede everything to Putin, news at 11."

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Agreed! Ukraine should keep all that Russian land they conquered.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately, there really isn't that much of it, even if it royally pisses Moscow off.

[–] krebssteven@infosec.pub 35 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The problem is - while he might not be wrong, simply because it’s unlikely that Russia would accept a total territorial loss at the negotiation table - ceding anything to the Russian imperialists is an invitation to keep pushing.

The truth is that the US of course do not care about the Ukraine as a sovereign entity. They care only about maintaining their own geopolitical interests.

On the other hand do I doubt that Russia is interested in merely maintaining their territorial gains - maybe as a special zone of some sort - if that would mean that the Ukraine would pursue a proper membership in NATO.

So what we will likely see is that Russia will want to maintain or increase their presence in eastern Ukraine, maintain Crimea and want assurances that Ukraine will remain a neutral buffer state.

Leading to the Ukraine being screwed over either way.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's just "Ukraine". "The Ukraine" implies that it's a territory and not the name of an independent country.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They care only about maintaining their own geopolitical interests.

That used to be the case. Now the US only cares about whatever Trump wants, AKA whatever Putin told him he wants.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

Any time anyone says something like OP did, I imagine them in front of a whiteboard trying to explain to themselves how the US of today is the same US as last month.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Along with geopolitical interests, the US is interested in Ukraine’s natural resources.

https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2024/09/16/senator-lindsey-graham-ukraine-trillion-minerals/

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

If the US is not helping, they should fuck all the way off.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Russia may want a pause of several years to allow Ukraine’s arms support relationships with the West to expire, whereupon it would attack again, this time informed by everything that went wrong in this recent war.

I dunno. Maybe? It’s just a thought.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

They won't expire, there is a literal brand new Rheinmetall factory in Ukraine.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn the US sure seems impotent and weak these days if they can't even restore boundaries from just ten years ago.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

They just lost the cold war.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Trump is all about shifting defense responsibility onto Europe but isn’t it the case that the US proactively claimed responsibility for defense of virtually every sphere where it has interests? We have the largest military in the world by FAR and bases everywhere, and have allowed others to spend less on defense because we want to be the ones with the big stick. It’s a little ironic for Trump to complain that everyone has allowed us to pursue this policy we have been driving for decades.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm surprised he can say anything with Putin's dick that far down his throat.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Let me know how many ml comm bans you got for that one.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What was his BAC at the time?

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

At this point in his miserable attempt at a life, his alcohol has no blood...

[–] ArghlBarghlFooFera@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean it's also pretty unrealistic that a drunk-ass low-life redneck would be secretary of defense, yet here we are.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

are you trying to tell us that spending your teenage years watching Springer everyday isn't a path to international notoriety?

[–] ArghlBarghlFooFera@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Notoriety, maybe.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh come on, if you're going to shake UA down for 500B in rare earths the least you can do is a li'l reacharound while fucking them in the ass. Stay classy.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You'd think Zekensky would give him that amount in relation to the amount of land liberated.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 13 points 1 week ago

~~Pete Hegseth~~ Putin tells NATO...

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

What his opinion after he loosens up with a gallon of vodka or 2?