To be honest I've never brought into the whole cloud music thing, at the minute I've most of my storage taken up by music and TV on my phone.
I use Neutron music player for music and for video a mix of Stremio and mx player pro.
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I have about 500 Gb in my personal library running jellyfin - which I hardly use anymore. I gladly give Tidal $20/month for a family plan, not just for the added value, but because they actually pay for the music, unlike Shitify. The stream quality is even better than about half of my collection. There are other good services and specialty services. Deezer is another. I don't mind helping the artists.
spotube
Personally, I just pirate the FLAC files from RED, and play them with VLC. Several advantages to this:
- Spotify is owned by a shitty, greedy company with shitty, greedy practices.
- Spotify enforces DRM on almost all its media.
- FLAC files have superior quality as they are lossless
- I can play them offline without a subscription
- Downloads are pretty much instant, as private trackers have insane seeder to leecher ratio
I'm sorry if this isn't the response you're looking for, but as other people have already given recommendations for alternatives, I thought I would just give my 2 cents.
FYI for everyone, RED is a private tracker
AKA a single point of failure
What exactly do you mean by "a single point of failure"? Do you mean that if the tracker goes down, I cannot pirate more music?
How is that different from Spotify? Does Spotify not have "a single point of failure"? At least with RED, I keep all my FLAC files even if the tracker gets busted.
The carefully curated library on the tracker is a lot of effort that can be destroyed very quickly as evidenced by the fact it has happened before, yet people still use private trackers.
But I don't need the entire "carefully curated library"? I only need the music that appeals to me, that is, the music I've already downloaded and seeded. Even if the tracker goes down, at least I'll have access to the files I've stored to my local storage.
With Spotify, unless you paid for Premium to download the songs, you don't even have that guarantee. If the service/your account is gone, you lose everything.
I've never said Spotify is any good.
What are you trying to say with this?
Fair enough, I forgot to explicitly mention that 😅
Here's the interview site if anyone wants: https://interviewfor.red/. It's actually quite easy.
Thx, but there's also no shortage of music torrent sites. I use 1337x and TPB without issues for years now.
You don't need a private tracker. I use one because I have music needs that public trackers cannot satisfy.
In fact, I DO NOT recommend a private tracker unless you're ABSOLUTELY sure that public trackers cannot satisfy your needs.
They kept jacking up the prices and making the streaming services worse so I finally pulled the plug and went offline. It's a pain in the ass, to be honest, but once it's all set up it's really quite nice. The only long term issue is discoverability. I feel a bit like I'm stuck with the music I have now and discovering new music and listening to it is such a hassle that I just don't do it. That said, I no longer pay for streaming, and I like what I have, so I'm not complaining.
I can strongly recommend Plexamp, which integrates well into an existing Plex setup.
Lidarr is a great complement to an existing Arr stack. And if you're going to host your own music, you might as well look at Sonarr and Radarr, which are so great.
Navidrome with tempo if you go the self hosted route
InnerTune uses YouTube music, so far it's been really good. No sign in, no ads, decent quality, and grabs alternative versions like covers and acoustic versions too.
It allows you to download the songs, build a library, create playlists, and you can free listen to related music.
Edit: Corrected typo, it's InnerTune.
I've been using the fork Outertune, which seems more compatible with youtube music sync across devices, if you care about that
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I use RiMusic which is Google Music without the adds. You can get it via Fdroid with the IzzyOnDroid repos added. There is also Spotube for all platforms, also available on Fdroid. I haven't had time to try this one out.
I use RiMusic and love it. I was using ViMusic, but then it got discontinued and I found RiMusic, which is a fork (and I like it better than the original).
Spotube's Android client had a lot of performance issues last time I tried it (which was a while ago, to be fair) and seemed to be pulling everything from YouTube Music despite the name. I think RiMusic and InnerTune are a lot better, personally. InnerTune if you want a simpler, more traditional UI, RiMusic if you don't mind something a bit more convoluted but also fun and different. RiMusic has some more traditional UI options now as well but I like the older one with the menu on the side - it feels like an app on an early smartphone, back when everything was weird and fun.
I've been using YouTube Music for a long time. I encourage everyoneone to download the Revanced Manager (link here) and mod the original APK (you can download it from anywhere, namely pureApk or uptodown) by yourself. The process is incredibly easy and you can have almost all advantages of premium without paying a penny, like with the modded Spotify APK.
Spotube: It's not the greatest UX, but will read your Spotify Playlists and supports offline mode.
Weird, isn't working for me
I don't know if you tried it or not, but I'd suggest that you install the latest release from their Download Page, as opposed to other sources.
I've noticed on Android, that the F-Droid Version is not "quickly" updated and frequently breaks due to breaking changes from Google.
(I've also just upgraded to v4.0 on my android phone and it's working - good luck!)
jokes aside, spotube's great
This is what I'm using. I like their playlist generator
If you like offline music Poweramp on Android is great. Not free tho
i love the headphone profiles in poweramp!
Youtube Music ReVanced should be good, it's the legacy of Youtube Music Vanced, which has served me well for years, even after its takedown.
Been using YT music Revanced since summer and it's great. No ads and being able to have my phone off is heaven.
I really don't get why Spotify people hate YT music and get so elitist about it, it literally has every song to ever exist; if it's on YouTube, it's on YT Music. I especially love it cause videogame OSTs are on there and frequently I see people crying "why isn't it on Spotify?"
As a YTM hater, here are my reasons:
- They closed down Google Play Music, which was an objectively better service, and didn't have feature parity in YTM when they did so. They had promised it, so regardless of arguments towards what it might have now or what features might not be needed because XYZ reasons, they promised that all the features from GPM would be in YTM before GPM was sunset and that was simply not true.
- Maybe this has changed, but at launch, I couldn't "Like" a song to influence my generated playlists without it "Liking" the video on main youtube, which influences my video recommendations. I don't want YouTube serving me exclusively music videos because it sees my YTM Likes and vice versa.
#3 every fucking song is edited . If I hear another edited Hollywood undead song again I'm going to fucking lose it
I'm just waiting for a new mod to come out
feishin + navidrome
Feishin seems to be the best option for navidrome on windows and linux as far as I am aware but I have this really annoying bug that prevents me from seeing any tracks that I don't have marked as favorites for some reason.
I think that is an option. Maybe do you enabled it? Did you try reaching the community through github or discord?
It is an option under the filter menu but in my case it cannot be turned off. The slider is in the off position and I still only see my favorites
Youtube Music Revanced Extended, using NodeJS Builder on PC. Generally the audio on youtube music feels more alive than on spotify for me. I often experience where the same song has a wider stereo field on yt music, means spotify internally modifies the stereo spread in songs. Also yt music allows louder playback, spotify is stuck with standards that I have no sympathy for. I say if a song sounds good then just let it be, don't generalize all songs.
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If you're into metal you should check out rokk-app.com. Kamelot's drummer is involved, and they claim to pay artists much more than the alternatives. You can also select a particular band which will get a direct share of your subscription.
It just came out last week so it's rough around the edges for now, but it might be worth checking how it evolves over time.
NewPipe on Soundcloud and look for dj sets
I'm on Deezer with a family plan that my family is happy about ; I use Murglar 2 to download the music I am paying for.
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I'm still using Airsonic-Advanced. I know there are alternatives like gonic and navidrome. But, eh. I like buy music from Bandcamp or directly from the artist, and then upload it to airsonic. Works nice.
OuterTune
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