Hardware vs software solution?
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Technically, all the colors are fake. They're just the halucinations of a brain trying to understand the input from sensory organs.
That doesn't make them fake, in the same way that x can mean 2. You are merely representing a given value (in this case light within a certain electromagnetic spectrum) in a useful way.
But is my red the same as your red? Hmmm?
if two people can both point to red and agree that it's red, that's close enough. anything beyond that is just pointless esoteric debate.
I disagree that it's pointless. I think it may be beneficial to humanity (eventually) to establish whether or not there is an objective reality which we all experience.
There is no way to "establish whether or not there is an objective reality." It's a philosophical position. You either take the reality which we observe and study as part of the material sciences to be objective reality, or you don't believe it's objective reality and think it is all sort of invented in the "mind" somehow. Either position you take, you cannot prove or disprove either one, because even if you take the latter position, no evidence I present to you could change your mind because to be presented evidence would only mean for that evidence to appear in the mind, and thus wouldn't prove anything. The best argument we can make is just taking the reality we observe as indeed reality is just philosophically simpler, but that also requires you to philosophically value simplicity, which you cannot prove what philosophical principles we should value with science either.
i agree, but that's a job for neuroscience, quantum mechanics, and psychology; not a pack of dorks on the fediverse.
But I want to contribute to humanity in a meaningful way!
-me, a dork on the Fediverse nearly incapable of contributing to humanity in a meaninful way
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it's more in the philosophy ballpark, which shapes the interpretration of methodology and the consequences, in my humble opinion.
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No, colors are real. And you see them.
Pink isn't real. There is no wavelength of light that is pink.
Clearly, it's light-ish red.
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Really wish talking about what shrimp see didn't remind me that in farming them females have one eye removed to promote breeding
I am eternally gratefull the practice is forbidden in Europe in organic cultivation. It's one of the small wins that fly under the radar. It's still a long way to people choosing for organic, awareness is the start of every change.
Can't fix what you don't know is wrong.
Anyone who eats shrimp should absolutely read this.
But compared with human eyesight, they could still see more 'colors' - As we see (almost) the same white in incandescent bulbs as LEDs and fluorescents, they might actually see the component colors and their intensities.
Not unlike how we may hear a combination tone when multiple other tones are played, and hear the difference (or sum) of them.
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Imagine how OP their colour perception would be if they did have that mental processing power
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So are any animals actually capable of seeing the invisible spectrums of light? Because humans technically can see them, since we make tools that allow us to. Suck on that, other animals. 😤
Like infrared and ultraviolet? Yeah, there are animals that see those.
And all the other stuff we yse to see celestial objects and communicate long distance. Our phones are able to see colours we can't!
I've been thinking about how a species with a metal horn could evolve to use it as a radio and even a hive mind.
Imagine aliens attacking us but getting fucked because their hive mind works on the same frequency of radio or wifi.
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Birds ?
I'm not gonna pretend I understand the magic words here https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsif.2019.0295
They still taste good. So they got that going for them I guess.
I'm not a fan, but that's neither here nor there. I'm weird.
I'm just not sure that flavor can be considered a positive character trait?
Maybe I'm stupid. Who knows? Clearly not me.
Maybe you taste good at least.
I also would not know about that.
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I hate that it invalidates this episode of radiolab, which is, without a doubt, a masterpiece of podcasting:
https://youtu.be/jibvu9BHV_k?t=795
i saved the video at the 13 minute mark where they do the audio representation of the vivid colors. still worth a watch/listen
Blue blue green greeeeeeeeeeennnnn
super super ultravioleeeeet
I don't think of it as drama so much as docucomedy.
They can still see true magenta though.