Everything else aside... What the fuck is so urgent about cutting down forests that you need a emergency order to green-light it?
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Nothing. The "emergency order" is entirely so he doesn't have to go through Congress to do it.
“I can do anything I want if it’s an emergency!”
Dang i wonder if we can find example of emergency powers eroding democracy in the past now...
Quickly becoming his go to play. It's how he pushed through tariffs and how he was able to auto deport all those people. There's probably more that I'm unaware of but the amount of national emergencies the man has declared so far is kinda crazy
Building "freedom cities" for billionaires, maybe. In his '23 announcement, it specifically stated:
Freedom Cities will be built on federal land that is undeveloped and not part of any of our country’s magnificent national parks or other natural treasures.
Which I assume means they'll be built on your parks?
(for anyone scrolling past like, "wtf are freedom cities" - it's feudalism. The Company Town. Literally lords and serfs type shit. Plenty of good places to read more about it, but here's one to start.)
In 200 years people will ask in disbelief why such old forests were logged down.
IM ASKING THAT NOW!!
We know why. Because Trump sees no value in anything beyond being right. He is right to tariff Canada, because the Canadians are mean. And he is right to have national parks stripped bare, because Canada is tariffed. It's just flawless logic. /s
That’s if the planet survives till then, which at the rate things are going no way we make it that long
The planet will be just fine. I'd wager that life will continue, the earth will still be filled with living creatures for a long time to come.
It just won't include us. Or most of the things we care about.
The planet will survive. Humans may not survive, but I'm no longer so sure that's a bad thing...
Check out where our forests were at at the end of the 1800’s. 90% of the trees in Michigan were gone. All current forests are new growth and under 150 years old here in Michigan.
I love that this map still has the Gulf of Mexico.
I hate that this will be done to our national forests. They're a natural treasure and should be protected for so many reasons.
It was nice to have a planet while it lasted, I guess.
Don't worry. The planet will be fine. We may not be around, but life will persist.
Once again, we find out most of the past presidents just obeyed decorum and norms... Did no one consider that a bad-faith president would just say, "uh...'EMERGENCY!' " then he's allowed to bypass Congress and just do whatever the fuck he wants!?
This needs to be turned against him. Obviously through the courts would be ideal. But at least in terms of the media juxtaposing his emergency declarations with his golfing.
Afaik congress could stop him, revoking his "emergency tariff powers" and revoking the emergency itself. But they won't. Like Trump, they only seek power.
"Emergency orders" designed to protect this country in case we're attacked are being used by presidents to sidestep the constitutional as it regards separation of powers. It's about time this shit came to an end also.
If everything is an emergency then nothing is our you simply cannot govern.
Remember: a can of expanding foam can disable most any vehicle when sprayed in the right places.
Do chainsaws still snap and maim their wielders when they hit rebar in trees?
They sure do! And they still ruin expensive lumber mill equipment. Just a few trees can make an entire logging job unprofitable and not worth the risk.
Bonus, it's a felony to spike a tree, so you'd qualify for being president as well!
When the Ents had reduced a large part of the southern walls to rubbish, and what was left of his people had bolted and deserted him, Saruman fled in a panic. He seems to have been at the gates when we arrived: I expect he came to watch his splendid army march out. When the Ents broke their way in, he left in a hurry. They did not spot him at first. But the night had opened out, and there was a great light of stars, quite enough for Ents to see by, and suddenly Quickbeam gave a cry "The tree-killer, the tree-killer!" Quickbeam is a gentle creature, but he hates Saruman all the more fiercely for that: his people suffered cruelly from orc-axes. He leapt down the path from the inner gate, and he can move like a wind when he is roused. There was a pale figure hurrying away in and out of the shadows of the pillars, and it had nearly reached the stairs to the tower-door. But it was a near thing. Quickbeam was so hot after him, that he was within a step or two of being caught and strangled when he slipped in through the door.
Fuck, some of that will be last remaining old growth, forever lost
That includes almost all remaining old growth forests. Almost all of the areas he chose are old growth forests. Here's a map of all remaining old growth forests in the US for comparison.
Not happy with destroying our society anymore. Now they have to physically destroy our country.
This is what happens when you allow conservatives to have control.
I'd ask Americans to make better decisions going forward, but we all know that isn't happening.
RIP.
“I think that I now understand what he is up to. He is plotting to become a Power. He Has a Mind of Metal and Wheels; and He Does Not Care For Growing Things.”
“Come, my friends. The Ents are going to war. It is likely that we go to our doom.”
do you remember when in minecraft you chopped down a forest for wood and didn't replant it? remember how you had to go to triple the distance to find another one, wasting even more time?
This motherfucker wants to clear cut the boundary waters. All these special areas destroyed because they're not a beach side golf course or some tacky casino.
This is the exact same tactic this regime will use on the 20th of April to declare martial law. I’m really curious how long it took the Germans in the late 1930’s to call it what it was.
This is a coup d’etat. Lots of people will die. The regime - even if DJT dies or gets shot - will go on. There won’t be any more fair elections. I hope these protests go from 5 million to 10 million on Saturday, because only a mass movement can stop this.
since Canadian lumber has a tariff making it so expensive now they will chop down the US forests for the value of lumber is high
And oil exploration, and real estate development, and golf courses, and casinos, and...
Hypothetically, would literal tree-hugging (i.e. chaining myself to a tree) be an effective method of protest and prevention? Would the loggers cut me down anyways? Just a random thought.
You're gonna get labeled a terrorist and probably shot
The way to go is in the monkey wrenching book (forgot the full name:
You take steel bars, and cut them to size
Then you remove a piece of bark
Drill a hole into the tree
Put the steel rod in
Glue the bark back on
Do it at eye level-ish, that way you're not hurting the worker with a snapping chain, instead damaging the lumber mill. Bigger damage anyways
Oh it looks like the area I hunt is in there. Damnit it was getting nice finally from when it was planted decades ago. Second generation trees are getting good sized.