There's no loophole here... republicans managed to take over every branch of government and are willingly destroying the constitution because their views matter more to them than America & democracy do.
It's usually called treason 🤷🏻
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We call it treason. They call it, “owning the Libs.”
It's not "their views," it's their lust for money, power, and a White Nationalist country. Make no mistake, their ideology is no different than the Nazis. This isn't a difference of opinion; this is unbridled greed and racism finally given unchecked powet.
From the court's mouth itself:
"It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing to be done.
This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans removed far from our courthouses still hold dear."
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400.8.0.pdf
We're also clearly compromised by Russia. We thought the cold war was over and we won, but turns out we actually lost in the end, and treason was the cause.
I literally can't wait until we can act on that fact internally.
Throwing the game board against the wall, swallowing your opponent's pieces, and calling the game store owner a slur is not a "loophole." It is the brazen and willful destruction of the social contract that makes the game work.
It's not a loophole. It is treason. All who enable treason are also guilty of it. The Liberty tree must be watered if we are to survive. Defend The Constitution. Defend Our Republic.
Yeah I was like wtf you mean ‘loophole’?
Just use this one trick to become hitler 2.0! You won’t believe no. 7? Seriously? This is treason, blatantly unconstitutional, and all the gop are at best complicit
Yeah I was like wtf you mean ‘loophole’?
It’s not really a loop hope if you straight violate the Constitution and get away with it.
Guns aren't allowed on planes. If you sneak one in you'll have a lot of leverage.
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Indeed. The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law.
His admin has started saying if people criticize this, it means they're supporting terrorism...
Which makes them a terrorist too...
And if you criticize that, back to step 1.
trump just said on a hot mic to a room for a laughter he's "sending homegrown's next".
Which means disappearing American citizens to a death camp.
I wonder when people are going to wake the fuck up and realize he's literally put us in a position where it's us or him.
His existence is a threat to everyone else's.
They're a bunch of cowards waiting for someone else to throw the first punch
Never. This country will become Idiocracy before people revolt
The country will become the Qax Occupation from the Xeelee Sequence before people revolt.
Idiocracy would be a vast improvement. Frankly, comments like yours represent being in denial of how bad the situation actually is.
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Free Kilmar Abrego Garcia. I am aiding and abetting.
First, they came for the "terrorists", and I said nothing, because I am not a terrorist.
Then, they came for the "illegal immigrants"..
While this is definitely an escalation, and a dangerous one that should be called out and fought. I want to point out that American citizens have had NO due process and NO rights on Guantanamo Bay ever since Bush Jr started disappearing people and flying them over there under the guise of terrorism accusations.
These are US citizens who were abducted, taken out of country, and not even allowed a lawyer or told what their charges are, beaten and tortured - that the courts decided that was all more or less acceptable for, and further that it was also acceptable to be detained indefinitely.
Trump is a symptom, he is not the disease.
https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/court-rules-guantanamo-detainees-are-not-entitled-due-process
The Bush administration abrogated due process, but we might have been able to move past it as a shameful anomaly in our history perpetrated by one out-of-control political faction. But then instead of prosecuting the offenders, or at least disavowing their actions, the Obama administration doubled down on it! It decided that American citizens could be killed on the basis of an accusation. It cemented the destruction of due process as a bipartisan principle of American government.
The Turd Reich might be speed-running the course, but it's just using the tools that past administrations laid out for it.
Yes, he is a symptom, but he's also morphing the disease at breakneck speed to encompass anyone who isn't an able-bodied white male. I'm not fluent in diseases, so I don't know what I'm talking about but it sure as hell seems more than just a symptom.
It's not a "loophole". It's just straight up illegal.
no don't you remember when they said a president cant do anything illegal?
What they said, was that a president can't be prosecuted for "official acts" as president. Not that everything they do is legal.
That's not what happended.
The Supreme Court refused to prosecute Trump (for a blatantly illegal act) and ruled that he was immune to prosecution for "official acts" which they refused to define.
Then they slow walked the case back to a lower court - deliberately - so the determination was not made until after the election.
Then in a state court, Trump was convicted, but the judge delared there was no penalty "because only a federal court could apply punishment".
Then a couple of days later the DoJ dopped the case because "the president is immune from prosecution".
The Supreme Court refused to prosecute Trump (for a blatantly illegal act) and ruled that he was immune to prosecution for "official acts" which they refused to define.
That's what I said.
Then they slow walked the case back to a lower court - deliberately - so the determination was not made until after the election.
That's not what delayed the case. The special prosecutor had to redefine the charges, in order to comply with the latest ruling, by specifying which ones were not included in Trump's "official duties as president". They were allowed to prosecute him for those...but inevitably ran out of time before they could proceed.
*Then in a state court, Trump was convicted, but the judge delared there was no penalty "because only a federal court could apply punishment".
Then a couple of days later the DoJ dopped the case because "the president is immune from prosecution".*
That's because the election happened, and it is long-standing precedent that a sitting president can't be prosecuted...as long as he's in office. They can and most likely still will, return that case to court, as soon as he's out of office.
Pretty sure he's not flying the planes.
It's not a loophole, it's what MAGA have been humping their Trump waifu pillows about.
This is what America voted for. There wasn't enough Americans who cared to stop it from happening.
The America people knew is now gone forever. Trump is king for life and people on both sides will need to die to set things right. This will not be corrected by voting.
All forces of enforcement of laws being created by one branch or interpreted by another being basically under the third, which incidentally is the one branch with an all powerful executive means the whole checks and balances was flawed from the get go, and assumed way too much good faith leadership, IMO
The current fascist takeover proves it assumed too much good faith. Not an opinion, but a fact! Who knew giving only one branch the power to actually enforce things was a bad idea?
Right? I mean hindsight is 20/20 and all that, but come on...
Now it means technically you'd need some kind of shared enforcement accountability - but how to make any congress-controlled or judicial-controlled enforcement group big enough to compete with the US army when push comes to shove.... 🤷♂️
Making something disappear isn't enough; you have to bring it back. That's why every magic trick has a third act, the hardest part.
The prestige, if you will.
Are you watching closely?
That's not it
If the American people and all it's institutions and politicians, academics and public leaders all just stand aside and do little or nothing ... then they will lose their country.
A country is not lost because of one man .... it's lost because everyone just gave up and allowed it to be lost
I think a big part of the problem is that we've made a place that isn't worth saving long before Trump came along to loot its corpse.
Let's go back to normal so the normal politicians can tell us the economy is great as we live in subsistence with no time or wage to live lives, where we're murdered for private profit with government's blessing, where millions of Americans die of homelessness as other Americans condemn their very existence for lowering property values. Trump is dandy with all that, but that's been the US under both parties my entire life.
We haven't lived in a society for as long as most everyone here has been alive, just a rigged competition against one another to the death for capitalist scraps.
Then you tell us the Fascists are here and we should... Risk our lives to... save that cesspool of avarice and casual sociopathy? Because people other than the poors are in the shit now?
This is the consequence of the hyperindividualist and avarice stoking values of the US, values our people are still miles away from abandoning no matter how much they get hurt by it, because they want to be a big winnah one day. We made a place where it was everyone out for themselves. Those values poisoned any sense of nobility towards this cesspool.
Here's a dark reality, not individually but as a nation, given our actions and practiced values? Donald Trump, who I voted against out of harm reduction for the record, is the PERFECT representative of the United States. It's like the US took human form. He's an accurate caricature of all we are, all we value, and all we idolize in practice.
He's an accurate caricature of all we are, all we value, and all we idolize in practice.
Not to me though. To me he symbolizes a raging brain tumor
theres no legal recourse so id love to hear what you think they should do?
if the laws dont apply to that one man, then yes the country can be lost because of him - and it has been. this turd needs to be flushed at this point.
I mean he's fragrantly ignoring a supreme court order. at this point law enforcement agencies are complicit for not doing anything. I really think there are no boundaries left for trump to increase his personal power.
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Illegal recourse, obviously.
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The country as we know it is lost regardless. Whether it collapses by despot or by bloody civil war, there's no going back to the ways things were.
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lol, any one who didn't already figured it out when the supreme court literally said that trump is above the law in 2024 is just not thinking right.
Luigi time
ah, the "i have a gun" loophole
The way powers are divided according to the constitution does not work and it never did because the only constraint was the assumption that the president would have honor and not abuse it... Time for a new one
Well, no, not really. The Constitution was drafted illegally, and basically forced on the population. And the entire purpose of doing all that? To give the federal government more power and control.
This foolish idea that the people who drafted the Constitution did so with any sort of noble ideals is a lie. It was a power grab, plain and simple.
Unfortunately, it's extremely American. We just thought we were better.
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