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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I would imagine if nothing else, gunpowder.

Bombs are older than guns.

Though in Zelda bombs are a plant. They just grow like that. There are also enemies that are bombs, and magic exists to create bombs. All of which have been used as canon explanations for the bombs in the games.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Just to expand on this: in the Zelda series it differs from game to game. In some games they are bomb flowers (e.g. Tears of the Kingdom, also Wind Waker if I remember correctly), in other games they appear to be man-made and are bought in shops (e.g. Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess, I think?) and are presumably conventional bombs with gunpowder as you mentioned. I don't remember any game where bombs are an enemy like you said, but I'll take your word for it. I haven't played every game.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't remember any game where bombs are an enemy

Bombchus!

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is that an enemy? As I recall* they're an item that only the player can use, they never appear out in the wild and you don't have to fight against them (unless they ricochet back at you). Also, this is just my interpretation, but they seem mechanical to me, not alive.

* which is clearly not as reliable a source as it could be

[–] Guitar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

On that page, click "Real Bombchu" under Majora's Mask. That's the enemy being discussed. The blue and yellow one is an item. Real Bombchu appear around the canyon entrance in Termina Field during the day.

[–] EbenezerScrew@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OoT also has the bomb flowers. You have to blow up the large boulder blocking Dodongo's cavern by throwing a bomb flower from the cliff and then in the cavern you get the bomb bag to start carrying bombs.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I'm also pretty sure that somewhere in OoT someone says that bomb flowers are the raw material for bombs

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Ocarina of time also has bomb flowers. Majora's Mask has these guys called Real Bombchus as for the bombs for enemies

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/images/8/80/MM3D_Real_Bombchu_Model.png/revision/latest?cb=20220122001305

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

What is "an explosion, even"?

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

Something getting really big really fast, or so I heard from Beakman.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you mean the classic black ball with a wick, they were pretty much hollow cannonballs filled with gunpowder and a wick. You'd light the wick, run, and the gunpowder would explode, flinging shards of cannonball everywhere.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What is cannonball made of tho?

[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago

Originally, they would have been gourds or clay pots.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

don't forget 3D models or 2D sprites, depending!

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I don't know anything about Pokemon canon, but you know LoZ has bomb flowers, yeah? In some games there's no such thing as a "bomb" that's distinct from a bomb flower.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What bombs in Pokémon? Geodude and a few others have Self Destruct, but I do not recall bombs.

[–] renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're talking about voltorb, which are obviously made from pokeballs.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I always assumed Voltorb evolved to look like a PokeBall as a camouflage technique.

Which implies that PokeBalls have existed for millions of years....

Your explanation makes more sense than mine.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Which implies that PokeBalls have existed for millions of years....

Evolution in Pokémon does not take millions of years. If you leave a Pokémon in your pocket with the wrong rock it is going to evolve, or if it becomes your friend it may evolve.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh! Good point!

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Team Rocket threw them while up in their escape baloons a ton

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

I thought you meant the games.

I only see smokebombs on the list of equipment used, and those look to only appear in one episode. https://pokemon.fandom.com/wiki/Team_Rocket%27s_equipment

[–] thagoat@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

Ganon's testicles

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What bombs are there in pokemon?

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Umm team ROCKET maybe

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Oh … this isn’t dadjokes