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Republicans wanted fewer abortions and more births. They are getting the opposite
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2025
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Very good article. I wish it would have connected the dots just a bit more though. You know what stops me from having children?
- That daycare is unaffordable so one of us would have to work fulltime just to pay for childcare.
- The public school system is constantly being underfunded or worse, defunded, and if I had a child they would deserve an education.
- That PBS is being defunded so the few actually educational programs (the ones I even grew up with) are at risk
- College is completely unaffordable without massive parental help
- The job market is at best, iffy over the next few decades
- Housing is so unaffordable that it would take too much away from my child to pay for mine, let alone if they want to have a home
- The giant huge fucking elephant in the room of the climate disaster - sitting here in a heatwave that is somehow again "Once in a century" for the umpteenth time while we do absolutely nothing to curb it. I'm not bringing a child into a dying world for their profit.
- I want us to be able to get an abortion if it comes to that, I don't want to see my spouse die just because she's pregnant and some politician says that the unborn child's life is worth more than hers.
Seriously, all of these are fixable problems and they've been doing the exact opposite! If they implemented even half of these it would completely change my mind about having kids, but no I guess having a 200 dollar annual tax credit bump is enough in their minds after defunding everything else I would depend on.
It’s a bigger loss for them if those problems were fixed because smart/intelligent people are harder to control. Hence the gutting of any sort of education. They want old style slavery in a modern world.
Okay that's true I admit, I'm well educated, and I want others to be too. Just like Idiocracy told us though people who don't see how bad it is won't be bothered and will have children anyway. 200 bucks ho boy let's get busy!
"I don't want to live in a society where everyone is a goddamn moron."
But how do you implement all that to only help white Americans?
We are way past that point... the whites now get treated like the rest of the undesirables. Serves them right for picking the wrong side during the civil rights period.
Okay how about only for rich white Americans?
The rich already get everything that's best. They don't need government to create systems for them, sorry social systems. Goverments job is to create "good" regulatory regimes and tax code that taxes the peasants heavy while not taxing them much.
I also enjoy generalizing
Who knew that creating a bleak hostile world creates a mindset that you don't want to bring more life into this hellhole?
You know what would create a mentality of wanting to be a parent? Having food assistance. Having a stable job and ecconomy. Having a life where you don't worry about becoming homeless if one thing goes wrong while the president creates and deletes tarrifs on an hourly basis to manipulate the ecconomy for his own personal playtoy.
Imagine living in a world created for EVERYBODY to have a bright tomorrow. Not just 1%. Maybe then people would want to bring life into that world.
Haha these Nazi dumbasses didn't realize we just wouldn't have children...it's a choice...want more kids, make raising kids viable.
it’s a choice
not for long!
The wealthy have been wriiting about eugenics since before this country was founded. And the wealthy arent having any problems having kids, in fact they are averaging higher than replacement unlike the rest of us
Cool. Let them farm, build, clean, and repair everything. Cause my nonexistent kids or their nonexistent descendants aren't going to do that.
Since your poverty of thought is so grand, I'll share with you what Kings did; The lesser rich become the new labor class. The children of lawyers and doctors will be who the truly wealthy pay to clean, build, and repair everything
The guy who wiped the king's ass was usually the son of a duke at least. It was considered a great honor to be 'The Groom of the Stool'.
And they only need us pitiful poor laborers until robotics advances a bit more.
I find it so funny when people use the threat "Ok well then I'll just die off and then who will empty your trash!"
It's not the barb you think it is...
exactly. republicans are not pro-life. republicans are pro-wedge-issue because that's the only way they get votes from lower/middle class people.
It works and their owners love it.
Yeah but the rich elite don't want happy, hopeful people that are optimistic about the future. They want people that work for them because they have no choice. Slaves. They want your kids to be slaves. Zuckerberg's bunker needs tending by dumb people that just want steady food and water.
They want people that work for them because they have no choice. Slaves.
Always has been this way, the question is of the degree. We have been seeing a trend reversal for the last 40 years, and the fuckening is getting unbearable.
Socio-economic conditions result in the this headline but the leadership can't admit it since it would require some sort of response that would benefit the peasants.
The rich are finally getting their wish to completely crush all the lower classes and you're here telling us to imagine a world where the most wealthy aren't the most greedy and vicious...
The rate of voluntary sterilization among young women jumped abruptly after Dobbs, and there’s no reason to believe it will drop off
whelp, now we know the next thing in their crosshairs.
Men can get vasectomies.
If any guy out there is thinking about it, it's a simple, easy procedure that actually isn't that painful.
Edit: I blocked Angry_Autist@lemmy.world ages ago but apparently they're still following me around and downvoting.
I’m very glad I went ahead and got my nads snipped over my spouse having an incredibly invasive surgery for sterilization. Any guy afraid to get one is being a baby about it
Some people are really averse to medical procedures, we should judge others for their bodily autonomy.
That said, I did similar to you. My wife has some ovarian cysts and was warned that a tubal ligation would likely cause more and then she'd probably have to have surgery, maybe even an oophorectomy.
I had concerns about the risks of tubal ligation already but that sealed it for sure. Got snipped right after my 40th birthday.
To expand: Got mine several years ago. I was literally in a cold sweat shaking in fear when I got into that doctor's office and it ended up being a total cakewalk. You basically get one pinch that feels like someone snapped you in the groin with a rubber band, and then you're pretty much done. I was way more worried than I needed to be. Sat in a lazy boy with peas on my junk for a few days and was right back at it.
Also, don't make your lady get sterilized just because you're a bitch. The female process is so much more invasive/painful.
Edit: fun fact, those stirrup things on the doctor table are actually kinda comfy. I dont understand the complaints.
Speaking as a woman who has had some terrible gynecologists over the years, the stirrups are worse when you have to scoot yourself down the bed until you're practically falling off of it and are getting painful procedures done to you without anesthesia. I had to get a biopsy of my cervix one time and the most they did for me was to tell me to take some ibuprofen before the procedure. Women's healthcare is still barbaric a disturbingly large amount of the time.
I was so happy to get to work with a very modern and compassionate OB/Gyn for my 3rd year medical school rotation. She offered her patients valium and local anesthesia for things like IUD insertions (and didn't scold her patients for expressing pain when they did feel it.)
Same! The really important part is the after care. If you ignore the doctors instructions you can have blood pool up in your scrotum and if it's bad enough they'll have to extract it.
Vasectomies can also be reversed, that's correct right?
Yes. And actually often reverse themselves over time as it heals, so make sure to go to your checkups to make sure you're still shooting blanks.
Yes, and they're safer than women getting their tubes tied by a wide margin. There is no guarantee a reversal will work though so if you're on the fence about kids either wait or freeze some of your sperm and plan for IV or something like that.
This is good but to add on, it's generally safe but is still a surgical procedure and can lead to complications.
Anyone should still do their due diligence to make sure this is the right move for themselves.
This is a good call out. It's one of the lowest risk surgical procedures you can have but low risk ≠ no risk.
There is the high level info from the provider that I went to in case anyone is curious, it can be found here.
Unless you want to pay child support for 200,000 children, I would hold off on freezing /s
HMM! Have they Tried MAYBE taking money AWAY from Childcare Services so Jeff Bezos can buy a New Jet? That MIGHT help Solve the Problem! If it doesn't maybe taking AWAY Healthcare from the Parents could ALSO help ~~Jeff afford a New Jet~~ this baby making problem!