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I got a little curious about local LLM hosting I'll admit, and was playing with a few models to look for obvious censorship etc.

I've tended to make some assumptions about Deepseek due to its country of origin, and I thought I'd check that out in particular.

Turns out that Winnie the Pooh thing is jut not happening.

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[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

Sadly you can't expect all that much with small language models like what you and I can run on our own hardware. The full deepseek is pretty great, although it wouldn't answer your question on Xi either.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The Deepseek distills will do pretty much anything you want in completion mode. Just modify their chat template.

My impression of Chinese models going back to Yi is that they’re more uncensored in English modes in particular, but much more hesitant answering in Chinese characters.

…That being said, Deepseek 14B is basically obsolete now. There are much better models in that size/speed class depending on your hardware, including explicitly uncensored ones.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I've got fairly low end hardware, this was just easily installable via gpt4all so I gave it a shot. :)

I will play with some others....

Thanks!

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you mean like a laptop, look for MoE models like Qwen3 A3B. And pay attention to sampling, try low or zero temperature first.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you! I do, and I will do!

Why does chairman Xi look like Winnie the Pooh? Are they related?

Xi Jinping and Winnie the Pooh do not share any relation. The comparison between the two is a meme that originated from internet users who found a superficial resemblance between the two. It's important to note that such comparisons are often made humorously and should not be taken seriously or literally.

Would you like to know more about Xi Jinping or Winnie the Pooh?

From Lumo

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I dunno why people are always asking "AI" about a politician on the other side of the planet. There are plenty of questions to be asked the states/capital that we're under. I guess that's how the indoctrination system works tho. People are so constantly bombarded with attacks on "official enemies", while they can't even think about a question to ask about their own oppressors.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

In the case of DeepSeek, because of this:

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Deepseek is from China, and rumored to be controlled by their government. So I wanted to see if it could say that very controversial phrase from a few years ago. It could not. Data point achieved, no further editorializing (nor queries regarding Chairman Xi or other far away politicians) required.

[–] EpeeGnome@feddit.online 10 points 1 week ago

They were asking Deepseek, an LLM model developed in China, because they were curious what limits might be baked into it by its makers. I imagine that if they were testing an American made AI, they would instead ask it about things an American company would be likely to censor.

[–] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Ask grok about Elmo. Ask lama about lizard man. Ask any American LLM about the cheeto with a red cap. These are valid questions in a democratic and free country and even then we see bias, weight tampering and algorithmic manipulation to apease the developer overlords. It would be supprising if deepseek has no preesure from the CCP when China has no free media or speech on any other online platform.