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[–] Knuschberkeks@leminal.space 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

wait, you don't eat the little things?

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 9 points 22 hours ago

Of course not

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 92 points 2 days ago

Aren’t we all just receptacle tissue.

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These are strange times for the berry club. Strange times...

[–] snf@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Accessory fruit?? What the hell is that?! What am I?!

This one lives in my head rent free! 🤣

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“each containing a single seed inside”

Aka, those are the seeds.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A peach contains a single seed but you don't call the whole thing a seed. The pips of a strawberry are called "achenes" which is a type of dry fruit. It doesn't matter at all for general use but it is botanically significant.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

An apple contains many seeds, but you don't call each seed a fruit.

I mean, I knew a strawberry wasn't a berry, but your counterexample was completely irrelevant.

Edit:
When people downvote but nobody responds, I have no idea what people are downvoting about.
Nothing I said was inaccurate, and it illustrated why their example was inapplicable, so what do downvotes mean here?

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You are being downvoted because you argue your personal interpretation against a factual scientific classification.

If the experts in the field have concluded that a tiny fruit that contains a tiny seed is still a fruit, then arguing against it is inaccurate.

Unless you too are an expert in the field and have some substantial arguments otherwise that are more relevant that a gotcha.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, it is totally valid for a layperson to criticize scientific classification since, after all, it is just a definition. Facts derived from definition can be true or false, but just putting something in a box doesn't make the box true. It's just the box the thing happened to be put in.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

After all, opinions are the most important of all.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca -1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

That'd be a really great point, if that was even anywhere close to what I said in the comment that got down voted.

So what am I to take from this reply? That people on Lemmy are functionally illiterate? That they can't distinguish between criticism of an example with criticism of an argument?

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In response to calling the dry fruit that contains a single seed a seed, they gave a counterexample where we clearly don't call fruits that contain a seed a seed.

You called that irrelevant and rebutted with we also don't call the seeds inside a fruit fruits. Okay... What? How is that relevant?

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I didn't make my argument clear, for sure.
The initial person called the dry fruit a seed.
Then the other person countered with an example of a fruit with a single seed where you don't call the whole fruit the seed. But importantly they didn't establish why the first person should consider those two things the same. The first person simply didn't accept that the dry fruit was a fruit in the first place, so using another, typical, fruit for example isn't going to help.

My example was trying (ineffectively) to show that it appears as an apples/orange comparison unless you already understand.

But now, despite explicitly saying I know that a strawberry isn't a berry in my original reply, I'm being told that I'm disagreeing with science, rather than with their example.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

And this, kids, is what it looks like when somebody has their feelings hurt about nonsense drama that they created themselves.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

I can admit my feelings get hurt when someone gets mad at me for something I didn't say.

Can you admit your failure in reading comprehension?
Can you at least point out where you think I said that strawberry "seeds" aren't the actual fruit, so that I can know how I was unclear about it?

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Each containing a single seed inside" does not mean "those are the seeds" and I provided a counter-example to illustrate my point.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Ah I see. That makes a bit more sense.

But I still don't think that's a great company the example, because I believe what they were actually saying was that just because it contains a see doesn't make it a fruit, in the same way that if you see a shelled peanut with the husk on, you wouldn't call it a whole fruit.

I know they're wrong, but I don't think that your counter example addressed what their confusion was.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

if you see a shelled peanut with the husk on, you wouldn’t call it a whole fruit.

You reasonably could, though. "Fruit" has different meanings (with significant overlap) when speaking culinarily versus botanically. Corn, for example, is a fruit and a vegetable and a seed and a cereal grain depending on context.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

You're having a different discussion than what I'm trying to make.

Im aware of the difference between botanical and culinary definition. Im aware a strawberry isn't botanically a berry. Im aware a pumpkin is a berry. I'm aware that raspberries are accessory fruits, that peanuts aren't nuts, etc.

I'm saying that your peach example isn't going to illustrate that difference to someone who doesn't already get it.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It means "I'm dumb. There's a lot of dumb people in this comm. And mods aren't doing their job"

Edit: see those down votes. Even more dumb people who don't know what the down vote button is for..

[–] 58008@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The red part is the cum and the wee seeds are the sperms. Kewl.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

How do I delete someone else's comment?

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] sudo@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

cum the whole ejaculate, semen and sperm

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Someone has a lot of time on their hands.

[–] fokker_de_beste@feddit.nl 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It sure does

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Had*

😅 Now, they're left with only their choices of how it was spent.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

At first glance, I thought this was one of those macrolens images with army men

[–] kbal@fedia.io 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Strawberries are a type of berry. They go in a fruit salad, so they're fruit. Deep in your heart, you know this. Do not believe everything you read on the Internet.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It’s just about which taxonomy (i.e., context) one chooses to use.

Botanically, tomatoes are fruits. But according to culinary taxonomy they’re vegetables (they don’t belong in a fruit salad).

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's often repeated, but I love the distinction between knowledge and wisdom based on this fact.

Knowledge is to know tomato is a fruit; wisdom is to not put it in a fruit salad.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I saw a variation on this once that added something else as "knowing how to make a tomato-using fruit salad taste good" or somesuch, but I forget what trait they assigned that to.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Charisma is selling a tomato based fruit salad and calling it salsa.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Botanic science is correct (in this, at least ^FFS^), whereas "culinary" taxonomy followed import law that was altered to dodge tariffs... They are not the same. 😅

[–] Phineaz@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Botanic science is correct

Oh you sweet, sweet summer child.

To clarify: A lot of well established taxonomy was severly shaken when genetic sequencing was applied en masse, resulting in phylogenetic trees very different from what was thought to be nearly certain. In modern biology, you have different taxonomy systems for different purposes, each using somewhat different justifications (am not a biologist, but related). They are all "wrong" in a sense, hence the joke.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Look, dear ol' patronizing friendo. My experience is in culinary, not botanical science, and hence the snub at the tariff dodging history of tomatoes' profit-focused designation as a vegetable (ie. staple vs. luxury), but thanks for playing. Syntax is a bitch, eh?

[–] Phineaz@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Didn't mean to patronise, sorry if it came across that way. I appreciated your joke, and wanted to add another joke about the biological side of things on top

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

Fair enough. No hard feelings, I hope, and thanks. 🖖🏽

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

The video “Tomatoes, or How Not To Define Art” (by Ian Danskin, who also does The Alt-Right Playbook) presents this very well: https://youtu.be/XmxIK9p0SNM

[–] Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the seeds are technically classified as nuts.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a little arbitrary but the thickness of the pericarp (shell/husk) is the key difference between a nut and an achene. Strawberries have achenes.

Today I learned! Thanks!

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

That's why my local Dairy Queen is starting to sell receptacle tissue milkshakes.

[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Science has gone too far

[–] don@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Made up my mind, make a new start; Goin to California with an achene in my heart