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Get this! Mike Johnson is now claiming — with no evidence whatsoever — that Donald Trump once served as an FBI informant to help dismantle sex offender Jeffrey Epstein’s trafficking network. Johnson told reporters Trump “was an FBI informant in an effort to take Epstein down.”
I’M NOT JOKING!!! 🤣🤣
So you're telling me Trump DID know about all the child-raping all along? And never said anything about it this whole time in the years after he had Epstein killed? The man who takes credit for EVERYTHING never once piped up to say "I turned Epstein in to the FBI"?
That's not the slam dunk you seem to think it is, Johnson.
Yes, that is what is means. Trump was chummy with Epstein for many years, knew about the child trafficking and took part in it. Epstein "stole" a young girl from Trump's resort and Trump got mad that Epstein took her out from under him. So, when Epstein wanted to buy a mansion, Trump used a Russian oligarch's money to outbid him. And Epstein was so pissed that he threatened to expose Trump's ties to Russia, and as a response, Trump turned Epstein in to the FBI. Alex Acosta was persuaded to give Epstein a sweetheart deal where he was not given Federal charges and got out on work release for up to 16 hours a day, 6 days a week, during his massively shortened sentence. And when Trump and Epstein later made up, Trump returned the favor to Acosta by giving him the Secretary of Labor position in his cabinet. So yeah, Trump "informing on Epstein to the FBI" definitely does not turn him into some kind of hero.
Excellent summary. What's your opinion om the possibility epstein was a honey pot? When confronted about the deal during his confirmation hearings, Acosta claimed that he was told epstein "belonged to intelligence" and that the matter was "above his pay grade." It could be a convenient and unverifiable excuse, but the fact that the FBI doubtless has mountains of evidence recovered from two raids on epstein and basically zero prosecution has arisen from it, I find it likely to be true.
In my opinion, we know enough from the victims of this sex ring to have pretty high confidence that Epstein was taking part in abusive sexual acts even in his own home, alone with the victims. So, if Epstein was acting as some kind of honey pot, it was because he was already doing these things and the government officials were either bribed or threatened, or under pressure from bribed and threatened officials not to go after a wealthy well-connected man like Epstein. And it is plausible they invented a honey pot cover so he could continue to get away with it. But even that I find unlikely, since if there was some kind of honey pot mechanism for this within the FBI, you would expect that some more significant portion of the powerful people we know are implicated would have had some kind of case levied against them. This sounds less like a well-intentioned plan to prosecute crime, and more like yet another glimpse over the crumbling facade of democracy. The more evidence we gather, the more we see how things really work. Rules are enforced often enough on middle-class people to give the impression that things are fair. And those people who believe in the fairness hold the fabric of society together and keep people from getting angry about the truth. That we are cattle and subject to the whims of a ruling class who take anything and anyone they want, whenever they want, and there are no mechanisms left in the system that have any ability to stop them anymore. There is no honey pot - not in any way that would have prevented the worst things from happening. If anything, it enabled further harm because of how broken the system is when it comes to what rich people are allowed to do. We can see the fence now. So, instead of spending too much energy arguing about whether we are fenced in or fenced out, we should start putting more of our energy into figuring out how to gain collective control of the gate.
It's almost as if they're trying to set up the claim that if he did fuck any kids, it was to protect them from the creeps that wanted to fuck them.
Sociopaths.
And how many times did he sample the product, just to be sure they were really underage?
Vote with lead.
Honestly, the fact that Trump is still alive is mind boggling.
That's great Mike! I'm sure releasing the epstein files will show all that and exonerate your guy.
Donald Trump was an FBI Informant for a man who did NO WRONG and also does NOT Appear in the Epstein Files despite being REALLY Close to Epstein to bring him down and had SEX with CHILDREN to bring down Epstein who Continued bringing children to CHILD RAPE ISLAND for DECADES after Trump started Investigating him!
This can easily be discarded for just the fact that trump would have bragged about this a long time ago if true.
The problem is this is the exact cope that magats have been using since the flight logs were released, maybe even earlier.
"Trump good guy so if he was close with epstein it was OBVIOUSLY so he could take down the pedo ring!"
This will cause cognitive dissonance in approximately none of them.
This is a Qanon thing my MIL was spouting years ago. Trump was “secretly there to save the children” is not new.
"I participated in child sex trafficking but told the fbi. Im a hero!"
FWIW, apparently they are. I hadn't peeked to see if we'd hit the high water mark for what /r/conservative will accept from Trump in a couple months. You'll be happy to know that we have not.
This is apparently his actual vindication according to the true believers.
How many major drug dealers were caught and became "fbi informants" to take down the rest?
Isn't this an admission of guilt?
Exactly what I came here to say. Many if not most informants are people who cut a deal in order to get out of their own charges because the evidence against them is so strong that they wouldn't stand a chance in court.
Now it is possible that the FBI had him on financial crimes and used him to get to Epstein however that's unlikely the case considering the courts have found Trump liable for one sexual assault (E. Jean Carroll) and he's been accused of several more including the rape of a 13 year old: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-26b6-dda3-afd8-b6fe46f40000
Are you implying that Trump, who is well known for his selflessness generosity and willingness to help others for a good cause, might have been acting out of selfish self interest?!??!
Yeah, informants are criminals working off a debt to law enforcement to lower their sentence or avoid prosecution for their own crimes.
Are they sure this is the angle they want to take?
I'm just so happy they continue to bring up Jeffery Epstein on their own lmao
Keep it in the headlines, please
Don't you become an informant when they catch you and offer you the deal; You get to walk free for the crime you committed, but have to risk your life spying on your fellow criminals for the fuzz?
Trump would 100% take that deal if it was offered to him, without a moments hesitation. He'd also fuck it up within about 30 seconds. Which is why I know this isn't real.
He was VERY inside the organization! You could say balls deep into all the little details!
Even if he was an informant, arent informants people who were involved and just as guilty?
Don't fall into it. It's a classic case of
It didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
We've gone from "it didn't happen" to "and if it is, that's not my fault". By saying "even if he was" you are inadvertently enabling the next step.
It happened. It was that bad. It is a big deal. He took part in the fault. He did mean it. They (the victims) didn't deserve it.
MAGA's buy everything Trump and his cronies sell them. They are braindead, fucking idiots.
This is gonna cause a resurgence of Qanon. And even his "normal" base will lap it up, because now it's not coming from 4chan, but rather his own speaker.
This administration is the most insane government I've ever seen in a 'developed' nation, at any time in the recorded history of 'developed' nations. There isn't even a close second, and it's somehow worse than Trump's first term.
Looking forward to his third term, I'm sure it'll be great fun.
Hey guys, former MI6 Agent here, I have a confidential source from inside capitol hill confirming that US House Speaker Johnson's words are false.
Source: Idk, ask how Johnson he pulled that out of his ass
Even magas can't be buying this, can they?
...they're probably already buying t-shirts with 'Agent Trump' or some shit, or branding it onto their foreheads, as they do.
Of course they're buying it.
They absolutely will buy it. Give it some time
Based on a peek at reddit, they already have. 🤦♂️
I'll be honest, I know that the Epstein thing was/is supposed to be the unifying matter that Republicans and Democrats all agree on, but outside of online discourse, I haven't heard any MAGA discussion of the topic in weeks (or longer).
Maybe I'm just in an anomalous social circle, but from my perspective, it seems like there's a vocal minority of MAGA online who make a ruckus about this, when in person, they just don't give a crap.
So, I hate to think it, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what excuse Republican leaders give or what story they weave. I'm guessing they could literally just release mountains of evidence and fully admit that Trump did it, intentionally, and he enjoyed it immensely, and his popularity with MAGA would probably only drop a couple of percentage points (and that's if it didn't actually go up for him "telling it like it is").
Maybe I’m just in an anomalous social circle, but from my perspective, it seems like there’s a vocal minority of MAGA online who make a ruckus about this, when in person, they just don’t give a crap.
I am in a similar anomalous circle if so. Even the articles about how angry maga finally is with Trump about this or that are never supported by anything more than a single-digit number of social media posts. Nearly all of those sorts of articles so far that I've seen have ultimately just been the author interpreting tiny little ripples in the way that most supports what we (and probably they) want to hear.
I think this is done in earnest for the most part, because we all want to believe that a big chunk of maga voters somehow just haven't heard about what he's doing or what he's done. And yet, all the evidence I've seen points to they absolutely are aware and they either fully support it or still think there is some benefit yet to materialize that will make it all worthwhile.
Least plausible explanation ever. It makes the 'dog ate my homework ' seem like a masterclass in defence.
So they’re admitting that he’s in the files but that he was an undercover fbi agent, and part of the undercover operation was raping kids… so it’s all good?
How the hell are public officials allowed to just 100% lie and gas light ALL of the time?
Before I retired, if an employee of mine lied to me about their job, and I found out, that person would have been terminated. Immediately.
Isn't this just QAnon with a thin veneer?
During the first Trump term I was on a local social media website that shall remain nameless. The magats were hands-down the most arrogant, ignorant, illiterate, consistently miserable people I've ever dealt with online. Most of them couldn't spell, capitalize or punctuate, or write even a simple sentence expressing a coherent thought. Apparently they really had no coherent thoughts to express.
For months I saw nothing from them but lockstep support of Trump no matter what he did. It became clear that magats aren't smart enough to know what they're supporting and they don't care as long as they get to hurt the people they hate. That includes most everyone else.
I hope every maga jackass gets the get the day they voted for. It's too bad the rest of us will get the day they voted for too.
MAGA voted for all this.
Remember that.
Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.
Trump was an undercover FBI agent raping underage girls so he wouldn't blow his cover.
I don't have a doubt in my mind Trump's mayonnaise brain might now think this is true. Him and reality have never really got along.
Of course they will buy it. It solves the cognitive dissonance.
You people still believe them that they don't believe this stuff.
They keep showing us all exactly how depraved they are and we keep writing these dumb posts.
THEY WANT POWER, THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT RIGHT AND WRONG.
This is literally an official admission of his guilt. FBI informants do NOT have qualified immunity. They probably brought him in for questioning once.