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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

This is an amazing article. I'm serious. Very well written. This is my favorite part:

I asked Higby why they were bringing ads to the fridges. He said via email, “This pilot further explores how a connected appliance can deliver genuinely useful, contextual information. The refrigerator is already a daily hub, and we’re testing a responsible, user-controlled way to make that space more helpful.”

This is similar to the justification Panos Panay, Amazon’s head of Devices & Services, made to me last month when I asked him about advertising on its Echo devices. He said it was looking to be “elegantly elevating the information that a customer needs.”

Do these people actually believe this? Do they see advertisements in their own lives and think, "ah yes, that was useful and contextual. That was a helpful ad, elegantly elevating my information." I've seen some delusional people in executive-level roles, but that would be a special new class of delusion. Nobody likes ads. I recognize that some people have higher and lower tolerances for them, but nobody is actually grateful for them. Right?! I need to believe this is true.

Both companies claim they want to offer “curated,” “relevant” ads that might “enhance the experience.” I can buy that to some extent when it’s ads for features that your smart fridge or smart display offers. This tech is complicated and capable, and most people only tap into a fraction of what their devices can do.

That's generous. But ok, maybe I can grant the premise.

But there is no future where third-party advertisements will ever be welcome in people’s homes like this — even if they happen to show me a brand of pet food right when my dog is looking at me with hungry eyes.

Right. Exactly. No matter what, I can think of no situation in which an ad is serving the customer's interests. Maybe in the case of a coupon? But even then, I think it's dubious.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Worth pointing out that that “Target figured out a girl was pregnant before her father did” story is almost certainly untrue: https://www.predictiveanalyticsworld.com/machinelearningtimes/target-really-predict-teens-pregnancy-inside-story/3566/

I agree with the article that getting ads on a device you’ve already paid for with no hint that there would be ads is intrusive and a sad sign of how tech is going (in the same week that it was announced that Apple are going to be adding ads to Maps, too). But I also can’t help but wonder - who the fuck wants a smart fridge? Like, legitimately, what is the advantage over a normal fridge?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

Not a "smart" fridge per se, but I can see the use of a screen on my fridge; something where we can see our family calendar, leave notes for each other, and maybe also be able to access the grocery shopping list. Weather would be nice too, though you can keep the news widget (yikes). Something in a visible location in our house, where we go every day.

I'm not sure what other features they advertise with a smart fridge, but those few would be nice; especially if I could just plug a raspberry pi into it and skip all of the Samsung nonsense entirely.

[–] timhayes1991@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

Normal fridges are dumb. Smart fridge smart.

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I’m clinging to my “dumb” fridge for dear life

[–] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

So, what happens if I use pi-hole or adguard to block DNS for the advertisement TLDs, like I do for all the other gizmos in the house trying to show me ads or obtain telemetry data?

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 30 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I was ready gawk at what ads on my fridge would look like, and then this. I don't know what I expected.

[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Repo it please, I will simply use salt to preserve my food

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 hours ago

imagine paying 2k for a fridge just because it has a screen and stupid smart shit. basic fridge please and thank you.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 38 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Why. Why would anyone buy a fridge with a screen. We have lots of screens. A fridge does not need a screen. It is a fridge.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago

Screens would get in the way of my many magnets with notes. Not only does it not "need" one, I'm actively anti screen in this case.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

You do need to have a display to show you what's in there /s Yes, that's an actual selling argument (slap my forehead real hard)

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t mind one for playing Jellyfin videos while I’m cooking, having a dedicated screen for the Mealie recipe I’m currently making, looking at a digital family calendar, adding items to the grocery list, etc. A kitchen kiosk with a larger screen that is easy to clean and doesn’t need a login does have some practical uses for self-hosted apps, but…checks list…nope, ads to make some corpo’s number go up didn’t quite make it into my wishlist.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 15 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

There are tablets with docks available. E.g. I could use Pixel tablet with the hub for that, even with privacy-supporting GrapheneOS.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 hours ago

I was about to say… I have a laptop that can go anywhere in the house, including the kitchen. It’s not tethered to any one location and can do all the things that fridge screen can do, and much more. Laptops also have ad blockers freely available.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 41 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And here’s how to opt out.

I'm opting out by buying a significantly cheaper non-smart fridge. Which luckily is still an option.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Any "ads" that appear on my fridge will be because I was given a $2000 fridge free by the company. Only idiots pay for appliances/services that include ads.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

I still wouldn't buy it, but I agree.

[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

It already does. Samsung's Tizen OS these things run is Linux based, albeit at this point broadly in the same sense that Android is.

[–] Damarus@feddit.org 25 points 15 hours ago

No they won't, because I'm not stupid enough to buy a ridiculously overpriced fridge.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 51 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Here’s what they look like on my fridge:

I would not buy appliances with ads,
I would not buy them, Sam-I-Am.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I would not buy them here or there. I would not buy them anywhere. I do not like appliances with ads. I do not like them Sam-I-Am.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 6 points 13 hours ago

Not in my house
Not in a flat
Don't make me grouse
I do not want that!

[–] mech@feddit.org 18 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

That's the main issue here. This fridge didn't show ads when people bought it.
So buying things that don't show ads isn't enough. You need to only buy things that don't get updates.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

But... Do you need the LCD panel? Will the box still get cold without it? Cause I do have a hammer...

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that just makes this so sinister.

What I mean is that my fridge doesn’t have a screen. So if Panasonic decided to show me ads on a fridge where the most complicated feature is the ice maker, that would be a neat trick.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Receives a letter at home from Panasonic containing a message, a color printed sheet and a fridge magnet.

Message reads: "Dear costumer, please use enclosed fridge magnet to hang provided advert sheet on your Panasonic refrigerator"

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

Funny you say that, in Japan it’s common to get business magnets in your junk mail. Stuff like cleaners, in-home therapy, etc.

[–] Picasso@thelemmy.club 2 points 9 hours ago
[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 77 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Opt out is idiotic. Don't buy this shit! You to not own it. What fuckwit dumbass rents a fridge someone else controls for $2k. I bet it has a camera inside to sell grocers a list of what to mark up for your custom pricing nonsense because you bought a billboard that screams I'm a gullible moron with more money than sense.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 41 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I need my refridgerator to be a box.

A box that gets cold inside.

Thats it. Just a cold box.

[–] mech@feddit.org 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I just wish I could buy a cold box, a hot box, a spinny-arm water box and a spinny-drum water box without computer chips in them at all.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

So we need a robust, failsafe open source motor controller with minimal firmware or just heavy duty relays and analog timers.

It needs a brain, but only enough to record the cycles from the factory controller and then replay them after replacement.

[–] original_reader@lemmy.zip 30 points 18 hours ago

Guess what they look like on my 250 Dollar dumb fridge.

I can even keep my food chilled with it. Plus I can freeze stuff. Even has a light when I open the door. Super practical. You guys should come see it!

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The widget will appear by default on the fridges as part of the software update. However, Samsung is giving users the option to turn off ads. To do this, go to the Settings page on the fridge, scroll to Advertisements, select it, and you’ll be taken to a screen where you can toggle off ads.

This will remove the widget entirely. If you think you might actually like the widget’s other features (calendar, weather, and news), you can “X” out a particular ad, and it won’t pop up again. But then you’ll get another ad.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 21 hours ago (11 children)

I can't think of a single thing on a fridge that needs to be smart.

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