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All passengers will be forced to use digital boarding passes by 2030, predicts airline chief (www.telegraph.co.uk)
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[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago (3 children)

But why would it matter? A QR code works regardless of the technology used to display it (be that paper, a screen, or a bunch of rubix cubes). What would the benefit of requiring digital boarding passes be? Unless the airline wants to force passengers to use their app so they can sell customer data and sell ads, there's no real benefit to the actual boarding process.

[–] Darrell_Winfield@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago

the airline wants to force passengers to use their app so they can sell customer data and sell ads

That's a bingo

[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In China the digital boarding pass QR code changes every 30 seconds preventing screenshots or photos of it from being used. But as they're currently implemented in the US it's no different than paper.

The bigger issue is how bad airline apps handle anything even slightly out of the ordinary like itineraries including codeshare segments or just randomly have server problems. I fly 50+ times a year and am able to actually use the digital boarding pass only ~95% of the time.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I always always screenshot my QR code and present that at the gate. If we had rolling codes locked away in a proprietary app, I guarantee boarding will grind to a halt as there always seems to be some sort of access issue whether it be from the servers, user error, connection issues, etc not to mention people often have their hands full of crap which makes clicking through a bunch of app menus difficult.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Ticktmaster has gone to that kind of rolling QR code; a printed screenshot of your ticket no longer works, and you have to use a clean installation of Chrome/Edge with no VPN to buy tickets -or- their app (which won't work if it's sandboxed or routed through a VPN). Hence the reason that I drive the hour+ to get to the ticket box office to buy tickets with cash now.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I recently traveled abroad. Flying back to the US I was one of about 10 passengers on my flight that was randomly selected for an extra search that I guess the TSA requires of flights coming into the USA. I couldn’t create my boarding pass in the airlines app ahead of time. I had to check in at the airport, and the airline employed explained that it was because of this random search. He had to print a physical boarding pass, and pointed out it had the code AAAA printed in big letters across the top. This lets everybody know I was one of the lucky random winners.

At the gate, prior to boarding, they called up the names of all of us who had been chosen. They had a list, so they knew who we were. They confirmed our ID again & the boarding pass, then swabbed us down along with our carry-ons and put the swabs in an explosives detector.

No idea why all that required a physical boarding pass, but it did. Until the TSA moves into the modern age they’re likely going to continue demanding paper boarding passes. And we all know how quickly government organizations upgrade the technology they use…

[–] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

But with digital boarding passes, they can get access to your entire phone. Last time I flew, I tried scanning my digital boarding pass at TSA. The guy stops me and basically just takes my phone to do it himself. I was trying to watch what he was doing with it, but he was sitting behind a terminal. When he handed the phone back, the web browser was open, showing my phone carrier's website, instead of my boarding pass like it was when I handed it to him. There's a small chance it could have been accidental, but if not, I don't know what he was trying to access or why. Very unsettling.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the latter half of this year, TSA only asks for ID if flying domestically and no longer asks for boarding passes of any form in the airports I've flown through.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the airports I fly through, TSA each has different procedures for different airports. And within each airport, their procedures randomly vary. The TSA agents at each airport are extremely grumpy and get angry at and act condescendingly towards you for not knowing today's randomly selected procedures.

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Story of my life. And they always yell.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don’t let your battery die

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Always good advice when traveling. Redundant power packs are now as important for travel as a toothbrush.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago

Way, way more important. Your destination hotel will probably give you a free crappy one if you forget your toothbrush.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you can’t afford a phone, you don’t get to fly.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

TBF, if you can't afford a phone, you probably can't afford to fly either.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One shouldn't be a gatekeeper for the other.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I don't disagree. I was just pointing it out. Air travel is generally beyond the price range of people on limited incomes.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While true, it shouldn't be required. But they also don't let you buy tickets with cash today either.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You absolutely can. But you'll have to buy them at the ticketing counter, and they will likely by 2-3x as expensive as they would have been otherwise.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not in the US afaik. Need to put the cash on a card, then you can buy them.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not necessarily true. I hate the whole phone treadmill where a phone battery sucks after two years. And the repair costs as much as another phone.

So I held onto phones with like a few hours of battery life.

Easier to just print out the tickets and not have to micromanage my phone.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Burner smartphone. Buy a cheap ass used phone on Craigslist. Only ever connect it to wifi. Load it with all the garbage apps companies demand you use. Use your real smart or dumb phone for your actual personal purposes.

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

I always prefer paper, this is silly

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is stupid but it won't cost any airlines a significant amount of profit so I guess fuck you if you have one of hundreds of reasons to fly using a printed boarding pass...

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

Hey, you're missing all the opportunities to be charged a service fee for looking at your ticket!

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure they're not getting my face or fingerprints.

[–] avitivisi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Frontier is already doing this. I flew with them a few months ago (my mistake) and I always print my boarding pass, but it wasn't showing up anywhere when I checked in the day before. No big deal, I'll print it at the self serve kiosk when I check my bag. Nope. The only way to get a boarding pass now is to pay $20 for a printed copy at the check in counter (and I wouldn't put it past them to also tag on the $50 agent assistance fee while they're at it) or download their proprietary app onto my phone.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Fuck, I'm so glad i've quit flying... If i ever go overseas, i'm going to hire a berth on a cargo ship.