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[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 7 months ago (4 children)

This is the real reason for the ban.

"National security" just translates to "public opinion of the war(s)"

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Its more simplified to "lack of ability to control the narrative" and also "My billionaire masters cant turn a profit from it"

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

It has diverted traffic and money away from sites such as Twitter, FB and Amazon after TT videos called them out and offered alternatives or avoiding completely/anticonsumerism perspectives.

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[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 40 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Mitt Romney might just be the only member of the GOP with at least a single honest bone in his body.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 55 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So that's who the democrats will run in 2028

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Irritatingly plausible. I'm going to be stoked if we get another election at all though.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We will. A free and fair one, though? Outlook not so good.

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[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well we'll have an actual primary if there's an election so if he gets through a democratic primary, that's on democrat voters. I also don't think he wants to run.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

very funny to see the results of the last few dem primaries and still think that voters choose who the candidate will be

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, its just nice when they're honest about it.

US republicans will be like: "8 men should own this country and everyone else can die in the gutter". US democrats will be like: "We need to reframe the conversation about the lived experiences of so many of our constituents, and reach solutions that include these realities [policies not different from those above]".

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Democrats are evil fucks too. But not evil enough that I’m going to give Mitt Romney any credit.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago

They're evil enough. If complete support for yet another genocide isn't "evil enough" I wonder what might do it.

[–] beek@beehaw.org 14 points 7 months ago

This isn’t a statement rooted in honesty or morality. This is saying the quiet part out loud.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 7 months ago

Palestinians getting to broadcast the horrors visited upon them by zionists is bad. /s

[–] Trilobite@lemm.ee 29 points 7 months ago

I guess I am going to give my kids access to my VPN I don't trust the government at all any more

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Everyone moving to The Little Red Book (or "RedNote") is creating some very funny interactions, lmao. Super cute honestly

[–] CentauriBeau@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (7 children)

What happened to us (Americans)? We used to look down on Soviet propaganda and book burning; congratulating ourselves on our free speech. Now we’re burning books and outlawing news sources that don’t abide by the official propaganda. It’s sickening.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 15 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Because our empire is collapsing

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Entropy will not be denied.

Rome always falls to the corruption of its elite run amuck.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Don't forget the lead poisoning. Something else America has in common with the Romans.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

The US has always had propaganda and book burning, it's just really good at projection. Hell, even D&D was attacked for being "satanic."

[–] yetiftw@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

did you miss the red scare? it's always been this way

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

Lol, classic American. Sees Americans doing bad things in America in a way that America has always done: "what are we, a bunch of Russians!"

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

You're moving out of golden age and into the 'find out' stage.

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[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yes because nobody is talking about the Palestine/Israel situation on any other social media platforms. /s

The more likely reason is that it's a social media company that the government currently has zero control over. Being owned by a (Taiwanese?) company the US can't ask them to track data and the CIA/FBI can't fill it with propaganda or whatever else they want.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yes because nobody is talking about the Palestine/Israel situation on any other social media platforms. /s

But are they?

I know they are on Fediverse sites, but is it really being discussed on Twitter and Facebook?

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Reddit, twitter, Facebook, Twitch, YouTube, tiktok and now Lemmy. I can't think of a single social media site I've used in the last year that didn't have people talking about Palestine in one way or another.

It's why I doubt the claim that the US government is specifically trying to ban tiktok because of the Palestine/Israel situation. They wanted TikTok gone before the October 7th 2023 attack.

I believe it's more likely a nation security issue being owned by a Chinese company than anything to do with Palestine whatsoever.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This just shows that you haven't been paying attention. Pro-palestine content is moderated off those platforms as "anti-semitic". Raise your hand below if reddit has banned you for being anti-zionist.

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The /s at the end means he was being sarcastic.

But truthfully, there are some places (such as isolated bubbles on Facebook, I would expect) where people honestly believe that opposition to Israel is based on antisemitism, being unaware of the genocide.

The /s at the end means he was being sarcastic.

Right, which leads me to believe that they are implying that people are talking about the Palestine / Israel situation on other platforms.

I don't go on FB often, but when I do I never see anything on there about Israel. I never go on Twitter, but from what I've heard any mention of genocide is met with accusations of antisemitism and the conversation is shut down.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's based in China, not Taiwan. (They are different countries, IMO.)

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago

Real 'chicken or egg' vibes with that one

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The second someone starts showing American war crimes they are a security risk. But Americans somehow still believe in free speech.

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[–] josefo@leminal.space 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What a shitty government you have if the truth puts it on danger. I see why Russia and China appeal to this information (and misinformation) war, seems like the US people has grown to be very gullible, so whoever controls the narrative, controls them. And totally self inflicted, your own government did this to you so they could control you better.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And Amerikkka plays the information war too. I’m remembering a CIA operation to spread vaccine misinformation in the Philippines.

If China and Russia are “bad” because of the information war, Amerikkka is at the very least just as guilty. At the very least.

[–] josefo@leminal.space 4 points 7 months ago

It's just another cold war, being fight with bots and social engineering. I wonder how future historians are going to call this period, as also involves trading supply chains.

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