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[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 143 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In my experience that doesn't usually happen, instead they simply see the daughter as another piece of property theirs to control (which is often framed as "protect"), and draw validation of their (toxic) masculinity from (making themselves feel like "big men" by threatening to harm any guy who comes near her for example).

[–] erotador@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah, they can only ever imagine wanting to protect a woman they don't want to sleep with, quite funny.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

a woman they don’t want to sleep with,

Sadly this isn't always the case, there's often a deeply incestuous vibe (and sometimes more than that) to that kind of ownership some men take of their daughters (I don't really feel like looking through the results for this search right now, but I remember several images of men wearing t shirts saying shit like "the only one who gets to touch my daughter is me" and creepy shit like that).

There are so many different layers of fucked up to a relationship between a misogynistic man and his daughter., it really is so unfortunate, but it's just one more way in which the patriarchy maintains itself.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

An incestuous vibe

Not in every case, but often, the phrase "emotional incest" applies. This is when a parent treats their child the same they would a partner or potential partner. Ask me why I know about it lol

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Yup. And sorry to hear you know from personal experience.. Sending you a virtual hug.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

There are those creepy as fuck groups where the daughters have to pledge their virginity to their fathers, too.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those purity ring things with dads freaks me out too. Fucking weird.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah, those things are creepy as fuck..

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is my favorite video to help deprogram these people

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That was good, as are many of the yt comments, which is unusual lol, thanks for sharing

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know how they did it, but the channel has managed to create a very wholesome community for deprogramming people on the far right. I highly recommend them!

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't really watch much yt (E: but it's always good to have decent recommendations to make to those who do), but I'll give them a look, definitely made a good first impression 👍

[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I'll second the recommendation, Belle (the guy in that video is Beau who used to run the channel) does a great job. Also just really good coverage of current events.

While I hate living in the south there are some really cool people here. Like this dude. Thanks for sharing.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Lot of them (at least of prior generations) internalized that misogyny and think it's their place. Disgusting to see.

Set up audio for a Bible study of 70+ year old women. Shit you not the video they were watching said "you know sometimes our moods are like the cloths in our closets"

The look in the crowd was not horror but nodding along.

The 50 sonething feminist coworker was mortified.

[–] pointnull@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dumbass here. What does that phrase about moods and clothes mean? that a proverb ?

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Like a woman's feelings are as trivial as changing clothes

[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or that they need to be able to change moods at will to suit the situation, instead of being allowed to express their feelings. Ever.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Or they got plenty of em and switch em frequently.

How ever one reads the statement, it's making the connection that female emotions are something different then malr emotions and that is just silly. Its just that woman are raised to deal differently with them as men do and neither way is healthy for any of those genders.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 week ago

that's the thing with hegemony. it's so pervasive in how it programs you that you don't even see it. you're not even aware there are alternatives until someone jostles you awake. we live in a patriarchal white supremacist christofascist society. the enforcers of this status quo don't all even understand that these are not genetically imparted truths inherent to our living situations, but rather social constructs enforced on us.

and i'm sure i have hegemonic blind spots too. i try my best to see out into the world and hear perspectives that aren't my own so i can have access to the full truth. i fall short sometimes. none of us can see all things everywhere. the best you can do is have patience with sleep walkers who are non violent threats, protect people from violent threats, and be open to the idea that you can be wrong, and hope that by living with kindness and compassion you can do your part to create the enlightened society we all dream of, even the christofascist followers, where all are free.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When I was in healthcare a co-worker and I were chatting with a patient while setting up a blood draw. She said she was in an engineering program at (local school).

My co-worker told her how brave she was because "You know us women aren't good at math."

My co-worker was a 40 something nurse practitioner with three daughters. You just know this otherwise very smart woman is going to pass that thought disease down to her kids.

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

I don't have enough and I have no fashion sense? Surprisingly accurate analogy for me. /hj

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine being married to an orange clown who never came to this realization, even though he got a daughter.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine realising he wants to fuck her

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

As he has repeatedly said.

We oughta weaponize far-right rhetoric against him and rile up his base by telling them that a Jew cucked their leader and bred his daughter, "how can he keep our country safe if he cannot even keep his family safe?" etc etc

[–] Zabjam@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No. Their god-king can not do anything wrong in their eyes. So this would have no effect on them. But you will normalize their rhetoric with it. "See, even non-maga people say it"

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 3 points 1 week ago

He can fall from grace. Too bad he'll bring about his own undoing because we're utterly incompetent. And weaponizing hipocrisy hardly is "normalizing their rhetoric". Anyway, I'm already busy with neo-fascists on this side of the pond.

[–] TriPolarBearz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

New nickname for Ivanka: Challah

Why? She's Jewish bre(a)d

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm sure there's some context to that story.

I had that but with having an SO and realizing that all people are people with the same depth of life experience as me.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 1 week ago

Am I a joke to you?