this post was submitted on 16 Mar 2025
1247 points (99.1% liked)

Technology

66687 readers
4529 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
(page 3) 43 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Surprised they didn't go with cryptpad - aren't they already French?

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 47 points 1 day ago (7 children)

What was wrong with libre?

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] hikuro93@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Yes, that's excellent. We need our own Google suite. Fingers crossed so that it may come eventually.

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 day ago

Great news!

This is probably the last hump for me before I can completely degoogle.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I got a kick out of Google Docs alternative since it is trying to be AnyType, AFFiNE, AppFlowy, etc and none of those editors are stupid enough to claim to be Google Docs alternatives nor are they a bloated mess. Proof is in the pudding though... Try putting 1 inch margins on a page & add tab stops with this & printing it out where you get the same results.. oh wait, you can't... Cause it isn't a Google Docs alternative.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

None of those tools are editors, right? They all try to be a notion alternative, which is also not an editor. There is basically 0 focus on typesetting.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That is what I'm saying this editor is trying to be Notion, not Google Docs.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Yes, but who said otherwise then?

Oh OP made it up. Nvm. They write themselves that it is a notion alternative.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I disagree. There's Microsoft Office, and there's everything else. Google is in that second bucket.

[–] wittycomputer@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

There's Libre office for those who like freedom and open source tech.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Depends on who you hang with. Pretty much all businesses at this point do collaboration either with Office 365 or with Google Docs, and the same in Academia. Usually it’s a mix of both.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is fine to have that opinion but it is irrelevant to the discussion since no where did I praise Google Docs. I'm just explaining the difference between this & and editor that does descent typesetting.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And an editor that does a decent job is not google docs.

It is embarassing that MS has dominated this for more than 30 years and Google, despite its infinite wealth, hasn't made a decent office app.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wholeheartedly agree with this opinion. Google Docs has done very little to innovate. The fact that you're still limited to like 6 built-in styles & lack of integrated syntax highlighting is ridiculous.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Google Docs has done very little to innovate.

The place where I see Google Docs being far superior to any other product I've run into is collaborative work. Having multiple people writing in the same doc at the simultaneously is a train wreck in most products Office365 included. In other products there's a good chance you'll have a version conflict and someone's changes will be lost. Google docs handles that with ease.

[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I have been using collaboration with Microsoft products for decades with little issue. I first started in college in 2006 with Onenote and it worked well even then. googol is garbage.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I have been using collaboration with Microsoft products for decades with little issue.

You've had 60+ people all in a single Excel spreadsheet on Sharepoint all making changes at the exact same moment and never once had a issue of a document lock or file corruption? Its okay to have a preference for one product over the other, but when you're blinded by brand loyalty where you can see no wrong with your preferred product, it makes you lose credibility.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Nice. Where is the source, on github (I didn't see it but I only skimmed)? Federated? Self-hostable?

[–] whatsgoingdom@rollenspiel.forum 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From briefly looking over the toot, I think the German version is called openDesk (bad choice as there seems to be some interior design software with the same name) there is a community version you can self host in a docker container. They apparently also have distro packages for Debian and Ubuntu but they seem to have stopped development on those.

Here's a link: https://opendesk.eu/en/

[–] mtoboggan@feddit.org 20 points 1 day ago

openDesk is a complete suite of open source software. I guess Docs could at some point become a part of it. But it‘s not the same thing.

[–] chameleon@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Github: https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

Self-hostable, but it seems like an absolute behemoth of an application if their "non-production-use-only" docker-compose file is to be believed, and I couldn't find any production-ready deployment instructions on a quick skim. No obvious signs of federation and I didn't see anything on their roadmap, not sure it would make a lot of sense for this though.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Deployment instructions start with the prerequisite that you have a full kubernetes cluster with ingress laying around, so… yeah. It looks like it'll be on the heavy side.

[–] beerclue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

Self-hostable, needs Minio (or any S3 compatible system).

[–] dynamoMaus@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

ZenDiS is awesome by the way.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I love the docs ability to create databases from my docs. That would be super useful for work and research activities.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, you mean a spreadsheet?

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

No, because with the above you can have rich objects in databases (for example, a dynamically updated list of medical events, each with all the attributes I want, attachments etc.), and almost arbitrarily deep nesting of databases. The idea to have databases with pages is one of the key features that made notion successful. It allows to structure knowledge without duplication, in addition to provide some other no-code features.

Spreadsheets are not even close.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] fishpen0@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Right up until you are doing compliance and governance and you realize docs are actually a terrible terrible source of truth for any automated systems. We’re 3 years into a project at a healthcare company to rip google sheets and docs out of our apps and replacing them with Postgres, bigquery, dbt and dagster.

It’s simply not okay to have your database be something anyone with write access to a doc can fuck up a formula by accident on. Your medical bills being maintained by random formulas on dozens of linked spreadsheets maintained by hand by random people on different teams is part of why they are impossible to unwind. By the time someone audits it, it’s printing different numbers than when your bill was rendered and it’s version control doesn’t work to roll it back without breaking dozens of other things.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›