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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 190 points 5 days ago (5 children)
[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 27 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Why are non-European countries even allowed to participate?

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

All countries associated with the European Broacast Union can participate.

Brazil, Peru, Japan, India, and even China and the US could participate too.

Russia and Lybia used to be part of the EBU but they were suspended. They know what they did.

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[–] napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org 18 points 5 days ago

Eurovision is organised by the European Broadcasting Union, which includes basically all countries in the European Broadcasting Area (basically Europe + all of the Mediterranean). Those include Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Israel, Armenia, etc. They have always been allowed to participate. Australia is an outlier. They just got a special invitation.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Because Australia were mega fans, so they invited us :3

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[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 83 points 5 days ago (6 children)
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[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 95 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As a European, I think it would be pretty funny if, after Brexit, the other parts of the former Empire joined the EU.

But at least right now, membership is probably more of a meme - some solid cooperation and shared institutions would be amazing, though.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

EU already said this can't work. It said in the rules only European countries can join the EU. But something can be worked out, no doubt.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

~~European~~ Worldwide Union

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Globalists but for real this time.

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[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How about the US just becomes provinces 14-64? I'll gladly take anything else.

[–] Sloogs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Nah sorry we're not taking the red states. They can be their own Christofascist hell elsewhere.

[–] MediocreBee@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Can I raise you the proposal of Canada and Jesusland

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You want more convoys? Ingesting the US will give you nothing but cancer. If it's not a city or a suburb, you're just absorbing indoctrinated fascism. It's pervasive.

[–] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

Yea, I'll take the top 20.

Mexico can take the bottom 30

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Why not? I would vote yes to allow Canada into the EU.

[–] RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] DeepChill@sh.itjust.works 46 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well, we do share a land border with Denmark. Sooooo…. we’re practically European already!

[–] SaturdayMorning@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 days ago (4 children)

And France (Saint Pierre) I think? Thanks CBC Gem!

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[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Well, if Canada can take part in the Eurovision song contest, they might as well join the EU.

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[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Let's just rename the EU to "United Earth" like in Star Trek, since Australia is practically in it already on account of being in Eurovision.

That way we don't need to change the initials, just swap them.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 28 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Earth United would be better, no need to even change the merch.

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[–] Uranus_Hz@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Washington, Oregon, and California as Canada’s 12th province. Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, and the northern 20% of Illinois and Indiana as the 13th.

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[–] Panamalt@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Might be some geographical issues (perhaps of the ocean variety) with this proposal

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Well, Ireland is separated from the rest of the continent by ocean. Canada is just a slightly bigger island, slightly further away...

[–] el_eh_chase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There is French territory just off the coast of Newfoundland too (see Saint Pierre and Miquelon), also Denmark is right next door because of Greenland. So while still pretty far fetched, there is some precedent for European territory in North America.

[–] dankm@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago

Canada shares a land border with Greenland on Hans Island.

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[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Maybe canada can be the first member of a post-European EU. I guess we'll need a new name.

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[–] androidul@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago

The EU 🇪🇺 is more than welcome to include Canada 🇨🇦 as the 28th member state 🤝

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 21 points 5 days ago

#canadentry

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Guys guys guys, let's be good friends with the EU, let's even adopt some of their best policies, but honestly, they also have some baggage we don't need.

[–] Taiatari@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 5 days ago

Believe me, we don't want Orban either..

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[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I'm not sure why I keep seeing this posted, like it's some sort of gotcha. It doesn't mean our other elections would have to change, just the brand new representatives to the EU.

The vote for liberal leadership used Preferential Voting where you could indicate more than one preference.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's not about being a "gotcha" - it's about demonstrating a pathway to better democratic representation.

You're right that EU membership would only require PR for European Parliament representatives initially. However, this would create several significant opportunities:

  1. Practical demonstration: Canadians would experience firsthand how an electoral system that ensures every vote counts actually works, rather than just hearing theoretical arguments.

  2. Institutional precedent: Once PR is successfully implemented for one electoral body, the argument that it's "too complex" or "un-Canadian" becomes much harder to maintain.

  3. Democratic legitimacy gap: Having representatives to the EU Parliament elected through PR while our own MPs are chosen through FPTP would create an obvious legitimacy contrast that would be difficult to justify.

The Liberal leadership vote using preferential voting actually supports this point. Internal party processes already recognize the limitations of FPTP - they just don't extend those same democratic principles to the general electorate. In fact, all parties, even the Conservatives, use superior electoral systems to FPTP.

The reality is that 76% of Canadians support electoral reform according to recent polling, but our major parties benefit from maintaining a system that systematically discards votes. Exposure to functioning PR would make the democratic deficit in our current system increasingly apparent.

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[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Türkiye is gonna be pissed.

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[–] europeanfan122@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

Wouldn’t mind it one bit

[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At a minimum any states bordering Canada, including those bordering the 4 Great Lakes shared with Canada, should get a vote of which country to go with.

Pennsylvania is 100% included, and honestly if Indiana and Illinois go for it despite being on the “wrong” Great Lake, I’m not going to complain.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

You can give us Buffalo any day. I love that city so much.

[–] rex_meatman@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

Can’t we just harvest the states that want to leave?

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 10 points 5 days ago (10 children)

I'm super jealous because I've wanted to have Canadian citizenship since back in my late teens / early adulthood when I realized that there was already a version of America that actually lived up to American ideals and which offered same-sex marriage as well as universal healthcare. That weed and apparently codeine are legal there make it so much more bittersweet.

The only people I've known personally to get citizenship are those who married a Canadian citizen. Which sucks for me because I'm already happily partnered and there's no way I'd give that up for anything, not even Canadian citizenship, awesome and appealing as it is.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Can we Philadelphians join?

👀

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