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[–] Toes@ani.social 4 points 2 hours ago

Almost like our eyes evolved to give danger its own colour.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago

This must be utterly terrifying for them.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Would not green be the obvious route then?

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

AFAIK green is more expensive to produce. Plants use it since it's good at absorbing sunlight, but what's the advantage to a tiger, if their prey can't tell the difference?

[–] MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Desperately need me a community just for tiger facts like this and pictures of tigers. Greatest of the Big Cats

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Thank you for subscribing to Big Cat Facts

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Do the tigers know they are orange?

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Actionschnils@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago

Ist is possible to make the own pattern visible? Like with special Cameras and Light?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Do humans know tigers are green?

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Asking the real questions

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 11 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

No, they too are dichromats

[–] bonsai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 19 hours ago

Meanwhile my colorblind ass:

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 26 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Wouldn't a mutation in the deer sight to see orange be vastly evolutionary beneficial?

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Competitive advantage over their deer peers.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 8 points 8 hours ago

It could, but it might also lead to something harmful for the deer at the same time. I'm not sure if the gene affecting the deer's eyesight is known, but it could be a pleiotropic gene (a gene that influences multiple traits at once).

If that's the case, and the other effect is negative and somehow spreads through the population, it could become a future issue for the deer. Think about humansβ€”we lost the ability to produce our own vitamin C. Almost every other mammal can produce their own (except for hamsters). When this happened, it didn’t harm us right away, so it spread through the population. But over time, it led to issues that weren’t a problem before, like scurvy.

Same could happen to the deer.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 11 points 12 hours ago

Presumably yes, but its still down to a roll of the dice whether a mutation like that happens in the first place, and whether the individuals who have that mutation live long enough to breed, and whether that mutation actually gets passed down, etc

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 29 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Only in areas with tigers, and then it would only express itself enough if there were enough evolutionary pressure exclusively on that survival tactic.

As long as other causes of death happen to deer in tiger territories and as long as speed remains a good survival strategy, minor mutations that would only provide an advantage in extreme specific scenarios like a tiger stalking them wouldn't have a chance to be spread.

There's also a whole host of additional brain power that needs to be dedicated to more complex colour blending and processing, and that may add enough delay to offset any potential gain in recognizing a threat.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

minor mutations that would only provide an advantage in extreme specific scenarios … wouldn't have a chance to be spread.

Most north europeans can digest lactose.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

North Europe is a frozen wasteland where nothing grows for like a third of the year, being able to digest lactose in those months is hugely advantageous. I don't think "winter" counts as an "extreme specific scenario"

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

Hey northern europe is not all Iceland.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Black death IIRC. Milk was one of few easily availabke foods when farmers died off. So, extremely specific scenario.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

It's been far more important, evolution wise, to be agile and quick enough to avoid predators. Like a security camera can only tell you how someone was murdered.

[–] hexabs@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And then soon we'd have green tigers.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 5 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

There are no green mammals because of some biology reason I can't remember.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Also, the vast majority of mammals don't see green either.

[–] hexabs@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Yeah I think it was a balance patch, because mammals that could photosynthesize were too OP.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Basically all mammalian pigmentation is just melanin, so mammal colorings are mostly just different amounts of brown combined with different amounts of red, and some animals don't even have the red.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Some birds and insects are green.

[–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

True, but they aren’t mammals.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

No, why is it so hard for mammals to make green? Even green eyes are just a reflection/interferrence trick.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's hard to do with fur, I believe. Birds and bugs also don't have green pigment, I believe. But they also don't have fur.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Right, i just remembered that green and blue in feathers is also just a interferrence trick. Same in bug shell.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 137 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

This is also why hunting vests are bright orange. Easy for humans to spot, and deer get confused by there being a fucking tiger loose in New England.

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

Ok this makes complete sense now, thank you!

[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently pink works as well, if a hunter wants a second color vest

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 hours ago

That works on the same principle, except the deer thinks you're a panther.

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[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 40 points 20 hours ago

Tigers are generally crepuscular which means they’re most active around dawn or dusk, when the sun is very low in the sky. Their orange fur does not stand out so well when everything looks orange under the golden light of dawn.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 38 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you, evolution, for allowing me to see orange so I can get an head start and outrun a mother fucking tiger!

[–] jwt@programming.dev 31 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

outrun a mother fucking tiger

You only need to outrun your travelbuddy.

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[–] MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social 16 points 20 hours ago

Oooh I just thought nature was fucking stupid

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