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It's growing one. The dislike of bots and one-liner posts seems like it could actually stick around as a form of etiquette, although it's too early to really say. A lot of readers will remember the poop post a couple years on, too, which counts.
The political bent and heavy tech-orientation are just a reflection of who the early adopters (and devs) are. Ditto for any extra civility or insight on the part of the people posting.
one-liner posts
I feel like Ask Reddit is at fault for that one. They changed their rules to have the entire question fit in the title. Before that, you were allowed to have the question expanded upon in the post.
It feels the same as when I originally got on Reddit 15 years ago. Not so much the culture of Reddit 10 years later, and definitely not at all like Reddit is now.
I feel the same way about it. There was a time when reddit, at least large parts of it, was a fairly decent place. That gradually changed, for a lot of different reason, until it became the mess it is now.
Lemmy feels more like the early reddit, before everyone gave up on real interactions and basic civility. We have our own problems, but the decentralized model tends to work in our favor instead of against us. Any given community, or even site, can still go to hell if the participants want it to and the moderators/admins allow it. The difference is that other communities and sites are not automatically dragged down along with it.
I think it also helps that a lot of the folks here have seen things go wrong, on reddit and elsewhere, and want to do better. There is a world of difference between skepticism and cynicism. So far, we seem to be mostly coming down on the right side of that. It's amazing how much better things are when you treat others as human beings and don't assume that nothing really matters.
Yes, we have way higher percentage of neurodivergent people here and I love it.
I think it's plausible that there are more people here that are neurodivergent. However, even more significant than this is a culture where neurodivergent people are more visible. At Reddit, calling someone or something autistic would usually be an insult. Here, it's more often that we are recognising each other and existing in solidarity.
Lemmy is how Reddit was in 2010. Size is what degrades the experience, the larger Reddit got the more shit it became. I am hopeful that federation will be the secret sauce that saves Lemmy from the same enshittification as it grows.
Less alt right stuff here on Lemmy than there was back in 2010, though. Early Reddit was full of libertarian ideals and free speech absolutists, before the consequences of those positions became apparent in the later half of that decade.
It was around Trump's first presidency that half of Reddit realized the other half of Reddit wasn't just memeing, the alt right went to their safe spaces, and Reddit began purging itself of all that was not marketable (good and bad).
I'd argue earlier. Before the largest digg exodus. 2010 already had custom subs and supported some niche comms
Lemmy tends to not take every sentence like an insult.
for example: On a r/PCMR post asking about GPU shopping I said "ive run pretty graphics intensive games and some LLM/Image generators too. Mine has been perfect, I don't think OP should be super concerned [about only 10gb vram]"
I got -20 votes and a reply "Wow you should tell to AI companies that they don't need 30gb in their graphics cards!"
like OP was literally just a gamer 😭
although,
Lemmy HATES memes with censors in it. And leftist infighting is insufferable.
I've noticed there is a LOT of hate for AI here.
It's not that black & White, AI can be good for some things
I didn't use Reddit towards the end so I might be a bit wrong but overall it feels a lot more likely that you will bump into the same people on here. Its nice that you don't really get your karma farming GallowBoob types.
The misogyny on here seems more intense though even if the mods and admins are more on top of it.
So far, it's definitely less toxic
Fewer conservative dickheads, less crypto-bro bullshit, fewer incels and the like
Someone made a joke that didn't land well. I called them out for it, because it looked like they were being a misogynistic prick. We had a back and forth, they edited their comment to make it clear that it was a joke, not a bigoted belief, we had a good conversation and even a few others joined in with a swell of positivity
On reddit it would have probably escalated into something unpleasant, but here everyone actually had a laugh about it and we all noted the difference in positivity
There are still creepy children posting stuff in places like asklemmynsfw and annoying porn bots, but it's still better overall by a lot
It's going to be interesting to see what Digg becomes
It's a child of Reddit.
It grew up learning some good habits and some bad, it continues traditions it didn't start, but it runs it's own household with it's own traditions, and is building upon the values it's learned.
Yes and no. To me it feels like going from one subreddit to another. It is different? Yes. That much different? I don't know, maybe, like going from a big city to a town without leaving the country.
Absolutely the same material, just less density so instead of the instant "fuck you" here we can see an additional "what do you mean by that?!" stage. And less people with ban ability.
Eventually, when our numbers will grow significantly, you won't be able to distinguish this place from Reddit.
Eventually, when our numbers will grow significantly, you won’t be able to distinguish this place from Reddit.
You will always be able to distinguish this place from Reddit. There are no ads or "sponsored" posts here on Lemmy.
Not official, labeled ones but eventually if it gets too popular, marketing teams will just create fake users and post ads as fake posts. Same as Reddit and any other social media platform has problems with
Reddit was shitty, just because it's people and people suck. But I hung around because...I'm a masochist I guess. I left because of the 3rd party shit. I've never gone back. As that great '80s pop band said,"People are people."
Nowadays, Reddit is some people and A LOT of bots. The bots are worse than the people.
Generally the same culture, but skewed towards more tech savvy types and online-centric culture groups. It's a lot smaller than reddit, which helps a lot with the quality of interactions, but I think if it grew enough it would end up very close to reddit culture.
I feel like people are nicer to each other on here, but maybe it's just the communities I subscribe to.
We have mods that use the banhammer as a disagree button, just like reddit. But we are also openly hostile to nazis unlike reddit.
The Westerners are slightly/somewhat less imperialistic, which is great. Also, people are visibly not as intellectually challenged.
I dont think we're a bunch of angry 16 year old white boys who worship musk and jbp so no we're not the fucking same
Not the same. More like a second cousin, once removed.
significant less astroturfing from right wingers, and bots+ less pressure of the constant threat of reddit and subreddit moderations.
your battling against people brigading, baiting you into argueing so you get reported.
I was going to say "bit of both", but I realise this is complicated by how long I was on Reddit; the culture and experience over there changed over time. I wonder whether the parts of Lemmy that remind me of Reddit are invoking my earlier experiences
I've seen less whining about downvotes, "you can't say x on y subreddit" meta comments, and general persecution fetish stuff. Probably just due to less people, but it's still a relief not to have to see it constantly.
I dunno, I mean, I never saw such an obsession with beans on reddit.
Whether that's a better, different kind of shitposting or exactly the same kind of shitposting is up to you.
100% has different cultures, however:
Not necessarily better, due to lack of enforceable centralized moderation policy a lot of morally grey or dark communities and instances exist, and it is more susceptible to bots.
Reddit was so absolutely massive compared to current Lemmy that it naturally did have more niches.
People are all the same everywhere.
Cowboy Bebop?
It is people, so basically the same.
Significantly different in most communities. Much more collab work for one. Plus faster changes in general. Hard to game an algorithm when everyone has a different one and in different places. The people are just nicer here. I feel like I can actually have a conversation without being drowned.
We have beans, beef stroganoff, and moths. And people are nicer. I believe that all of this is related.
I don't think I've ever seen an owl on reddit
r/superbowl was the inspiration for the lemmy version...
Much less "trying to be the funniest person in the room" energy
