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I think the person saying it wants to avoid family or acquaintances giving them shit for not sharing their political views.

Most of my family is very conservative stereotype vile people. I've heard that exact phrase from the few left leaning relatives as they try to wigle out of unconfortable conversations. I myself am the black sheep that just tells the repugnicans that their views disgust me.

That you don't understand how capitalism works.

“I like to have my cake and eat it too”.

"I'm an upper middle class asshole but Republicans are terrible company and won't smoke weed with me"

"I like pot and hookers and pretend I'm better at managing money than you."

Screaming from the far left, there are a lot of people in scarcity or precairity in our society, a society that would collapse if they all suddenly fell incapacitated from their want.

It is our fucking duty as fellow citizens to stabilize them.

Conservatism at its core is ignoring their need in the name of tradition. To the ninth charnel circle of Hell with that.

Well this is what I think since I often fall into that kind of thinking and kind of reflected on how I recently voted on a proposition.

It was increase to the sales tax to make the area "safer and vibrant" and touted as a major way in this prop was providing help for affordable housing. My brain went immediately jumped to the more progressive leaning side and went, I'd love to help those who can't afford housing and yeah, I don't mind paying a bit more tax even though I don't particularly like the whole more regressive taxation kind of thing but overall it would be a great thing. Then I looked at the break down and saw that only 17 percent of the funding would actually go toward affordable housing.

That's where the more fiscally conservative part went, huh, well that doesn't pass the sniff test if you're making this about affordable housing and making things "safer" for them and the community dafuq is it only 17 percent of the budget there? Well digging in, 45 percent of this would have gone to cops and first responders, heavy emphasis on cops with articles going on about how the cops were looking forward to buying a helicopter. That fiscally conservative part of me went, yeah, that's wasting my god damn tax money then.

At that point my NWA part of the brain went, you assholes want to hire more cops with no change in hiring standards where we already have a problem with way too many racists ass police, give them cars, helicopters, more tasers and guns, and body cameras that we don't have access to the footage and no consequences if these assholes turn them off during an their encounters with the public? ACAB you bunch of tone deaf jackasses and Fuck the Police.

Needless to say, I did not vote for that increase in taxes.

I would think, "the accuracy of that statement depends on your voting record".

"I don't understand what those words mean and I'm taking the coward's way out of this conversation."

Housing and human rights matter and we should stop spending so much money on bombing houses and killing people.

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"I'm simple and don't bother to look deeper into anything"

C-c-c-conservative combo-breaker!

Edit: Sorry, I just wanted to say that. But I do think that falls under right wing with a sprinkle of social moderate leftism but even so, the debate of "can gays have the same rights as all of us" takes away from the ultimate leftist pov of "we should all have better material conditions as a class, including minorities".

Edit 2: and fiscally conservative is ofc "you keep whatever pennies you may or may not have, I got money Idgaf I'm not giving it away" which is the misunderstood antithesis of the concept of the far left.

I used to think this, because I was against government waste. But I also supported welfare programs, so I was just using the wrong terms for my ideas.

Greedy cunt

They voted for trump and agree with everything he says but don't want to own up to it

"Liar."

Libertarians don't actually care about social progress if it affects a business's bottom line negatively.

In the U.S. "fiscal conservatism doesn't exist" so I hope you are voting against the hate mongers and trying to reform their opposition into balancing the budget (difficult when the hate mongers keep fucking the tax code in favor of the ultra-rich).

I think in terms of American politics this means you are buying the shit that both sides are peddling to distract you from what the actual problems are and what is actually causing them

As someone who calls himself that:

"I am a liberal but the liberal want to go after the upper middle class instead of after the top 0.1%"

P.S: I'm from Switzerland, so don't tell me about Trump. I knoe he's a fascist and I would have voted against him. But here in Switzerland we have more moderate choices.

Extreme centrist

I am socially liberal and with my personal budget, fiscally conservative. Government money? Different priorities, plenty of stuff would be cheaper when we pool our money like that, so I'm not sure what fiscally conservative means. My gut reaction is that this person isn't socially liberal because regressive government fiscal policies harm the population, you can't really split it out like that. I guess it's someone who doesn't care who you marry or how you dress but also doesn't care if the schools are any good or if there is any enforcement of the rights to do the socially liberal things.

Libertarian

You have no party if you are American as our conservative movement abandoned any form of fiscal responsibility 30-40 years ago. When was the last time a tax cut was paired with a reduction in spending? Oh yeah that last happened in 1983

I think "I want to keep my money and let you get gay married"