Lemmy, how do I feel about this?
Fuck AI
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I work in a very technical field and I used to be worried that I wouldn't be able to keep up into my 40s and 50s but seeing how genZ deals with technology makes me much less concerned. I feel like we're heading into a situation where the big divide will be pre and post brain rot.
100%. My brother in-law is like 10 years younger than me. Holy fuck is he stupid. Man has stage 4 Joe Rogan /gpt induced brain rot
I feel like we’re heading into a situation where the big divide will be pre and post brain rot.
Almost feels too simple, given how brainrotted boomers are.
It's like there's a window with elder Millenials and Gen X, people who straddled the line of before/after the internet as they were growing up, that are sane.
Everyone else is broken.
Be precise. Based on My interactions with Lemmy, will I find this true or false. Write My opinion in 3 sentences.
That is an excellent idea! Based on post history you want to live in a swamp, cover yourself in mouldy leaves and cook soup from frogs and old tennis socks. Was this reply helpful?
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Certainly! You believe that this is very not good. You think that this will lead to the end of human civilisation. You would rather kill whomever is responsible than keep having to watch the steady decline. As a solution you should listen to more Kesha.
You feel compelled to write a 12 page missive on why cars are awful, Zohran Mamdami is the true messiah, and AI is worse than the bubonic plague.
Hey remember how social media cause all types of cognitive issues? Y’all ready for round two?
"Someone said 'second hand thinker' and I still think about that daily," another user added.
That’s solid but not specific enough. I know a lot of people let YouTube and TikTok do their thinking these days.
I argue its worse, in the end whatever is being regurgitated from what they see on youtube ends with the video duration, but these people are to believe that these things think - hell they think the AI is smarter than themselves and defer all judgement. I wish it remained an internet phenomena but I've met too many true believers already 😑
/anecdote
Guy in one of my code classes, would not just fucking tell me if he wrote his code, or the AI did. I knew the AI did, because you don't come asking why it's not working when he didn't declare any variables, big red error "variable not declared". It was the end of that semester, I was there with him every single period. The audacity to have me debug the shitbot's chicken scratch, claim its super helpful, but also cover its dumb ass by being an even bigger dumbass and fail probably the easiest javascript course you could've asked for. I am honestly still in awe.
Boy am I glad I didn’t go to school (and don’t have to teach) during AI.
Back in my day you knew people were copy and pasting from stack overflow because Python would complain about mixed indentation and there’d be comments in only one function.
I do feel for the TAs having to read our printed assignment and hand written code on tests.
Sometimes I worry I'm too lazy. Then I read headlines like this.
Honestly, I think that overall it takes more effort verifying ChatGPT answers than actually researching.
I don't think the people using ChatGPT like that actual verify its answers.
I suspect they don't even know its answers cannot be trusted.
I didnt ask Ai before i made this comment.
Its a natural home grown comment, 100% AI free, from one of my favorite braincells.
Username checks out.
We still at war with Eastasia?
Always have been my friend.
Am I the only one who tried a LLM like twice, saw it gave out bullshit, then never tried it again (though I do see it forced on me with general searches, be it google or DDG or Bing or kinda anywhere now)?
I tried Copilot to answer a couple of coding questions, and I ended up having to take as much time to double check the answers/code it didn't seem worth it.
ChatGPT is the ultimate 'cultural product of the postmodern era,' and very few of us have been inoculated with a theory of mind that distinguishes language from thought," Foster concluded in his newsletter.
The best description of this distinction I've encountered was in a science fiction novel - Blindsight by Peter Watts.
Hell, it's getting hard to avoid. DuckDuckGo now has an AI answer at the top of search results. When doing technical searches, it's usually just regurgitating the top StackOverflow answer, but there is always the problem that it could be regurgitating a bad answer. Or badly regurgitating an answer. So, it's usually best to ignore it and read the answer it's trying to give and then research what the person actually said and if it's right.
at least ddg respects the "never show me this" toggle.
Weren't there a couple of stories in the '70s and '80s about people climbing the corporate ladder by following the advice from a Magic 8 Ball? And look how all that turned out!
The magic 7 ball strategy had a survivorship basis. Only competent people succeeded in using it
I think those people using magic 8, succeeded by not using their emotions to make career decisions, but coolly and rationally handled what was in front of them randomly .
As a consequence they played less power games while being very aggressive. Which is a winning strategy sometimes .
Llm could not replicate it, too much instructions
Personally I prefer clankerwankers but whatever works.
I also think slopmachine is a good slur for llms, given it highlights the gambling aspect and addictive potential.
Oh the Gen Xers in my office, they are killing me with these AI answers.
Looks like learned helplessness is back from the grave with a new definition
Imagine asking AIs to form your own opinion.
"Grok, should I support Ukraine or Russia?"
Who would have thought that we are all becoming like Batman's villain, Two Face, to make decisions from an inanimate object.
I'm not saying that nobody does this, but the idea that there is a widespread problem of people prioritizing GPT over their own cognition for a majority of their decision making has "trying to create a new moral panic" written all over it.
Done!
I eavesdropped on a project manager really trying to convince upper management to make IT let him install an AI program that (by what I heard) would read from the screen and interact with our PMS. Straight up suggesting to have himself replaced.
I wouldn't say this compares to say the Satanic Panic, but I mean look at how it's being advertised - especially Apple Intelligence (seriously look it up) - this is very much the way they expect AI to be used (write my friend a birthday text, etc).
Not to mention the real material concerns over the deployment of now even more massive and power intensive datacenters, running on gas turbines because the grid can't feasibly power it, to feed psychophantic language generators designed to keep users hooked and reaffirming even their most violent thought, even leading kids to suicide by way of delusions - again because of how these models are designed in particular, and how they're pushed to consumers. To say there's absolutely no actionable concern is a farce.
Sure but I'm also actually encountering these people at work. Granted I never thought particularly highly of many of my coworkers to begin with.
My latest "grinds my gears" is seeing people run their emails through GPT to make them sound "professional".
I call them "Chattel" because they're owned and enslaved (i.e. behavior controlled by) the broligarchs via ChatGPT etc.
chattel: a human being considered to be property; an enslaved person.
Chat, is this real?
How soon till cult mechanicus is recognized for religious tax breaks?
LLM thumping slopvangelicals.