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[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 252 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I blame management metrics that punish anyone for getting less than 5-star reviews

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 120 points 1 week ago (5 children)

In the US.

God, I literally was told by my manager at my first job to tell customers, when they got a random survey, that anything less than a 10 is a 0.

Japan does 5 star ratings proper.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's how you know you're being setup for failure

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"If you go a minute without making a mistake then you can go a lifetime without making a mistake."

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't know why, but that gave me a similar visceral reaction to hearing "if you have time to lean, you have time to clean"

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

They both come from assholes wuth the same mindset.

[–] puckpuckpuckow@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Next time someone say this, find a stick, haul it at them and shout „Duck!“. If they don’t duck, they got what they deserve. If they do duck, then say „If you can duck the stick, you can suck this dick“, whip your dick out and stick it in their mouth.

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[–] realitista@lemmus.org 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah this is why I almost always give 5* reviews to any sort of thing that's traced back to a worker unless I really feel like they need to be reprimanded for something, and how badly they should be reprimanded is how many stars I take off. This is only for the 1% who really need a talking to.

When it comes to product reviews on Amazon for example, or business reviews, I feel a lot more free to give my real opinion to help the next person.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every time I have to do an after call/chat survey I try to add a comment along the lines of "Your representative was very helpful, but I had to deal with too much waiting and too many chatbots to reach them. Please hire more staff."

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[–] InvestBurnout@fedia.io 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't care how many stars it is; if it's like 4.5 stars out of 1000+ reviews, I'll take it over something that's 5 stars with 100 reviews.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What it is now:

  • 5 stars = it was fine
  • 5 stars plus glowing review = it was great
  • 4 stars = it could have been better
  • 1 star = terrible
  • 1 star plus review = so terrible that I had to write something OR I'm a gigantic gaping asshole that likes to complain
[–] socsa@piefed.social 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"One star, the restaurant was fully booked and the hostess calmly explained that there was no room to seat me and my seventeen crying infants."

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

"Three stars, the kitchen was actively on fire, a opossum was living in the cash register, and the server only spoke Norwegian, great Italian food though will be back next week."

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 35 points 1 week ago (8 children)

what about using thumbs up/down and computing a five-star rating from the average?

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

this system can skew the average towards negative

say someone found a hair in their soup but otherwise the experience was amazing - even if they're peak karen they'd still probably give something like 3 stars, but if faced with a binary choice they'd probably pick the negative option

unless you mean up/down vote per each quality like atmosphere, food, hygine, service etc then that'd preserve the nuance imo

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[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Every single person that I get requested to rate gets five stars plus a positive comment because fuck you gig economy.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 18 points 1 week ago

This is the issue. I am more concerned about the real impact a rating has on a real person's life than whether some future rider will be slightly bothered by a dirty floor mat.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

Right if it's for corp always 5/5 but if it's on like bookworm or my blog, I feel like I can be honest, because no one is getting dinged based on my stars.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For hr or Uber or similar the scale is this:

5 stars = meh, expected experience

4 stars or lower = your employee literally tried to kill me

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[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago

I mean, this is a good idea, I’ll give it four stars.

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

For real, the fact that the former is how people have started using the five start system is crazy. Uber driver has less than a 4.8 rating? Cancel that ride, he must be a monster.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

ratings are not objective, no matter how hard we try we are not creatures of objectivity. when it comes to rating other people most of us want to be nice

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

ratings systems are dehumanizing for employees while re-enforcing entitled consumerism for the public.

I wanna rate the managers.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We do net promoter scores, out of 10. 9 and 10 are positive, 6-8 are neutral, 1-5 are negative. We get scores like "Good job, no complaints, 5 points" or "Best service ever, but my internet went down, so I knocked it down to 8 points."

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is literally just a 3-option ranking with extra steps.

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This doesn’t work unless everybody agrees to use it

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[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I worked for AWS for a few years and one of our performance targets was customer correspondence rating, we had a target of 4.67. That means anything below a 5 brought you under the target. You also got to have a meeting with a team lead and quality lead for anything rated 3 and below.

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I prefer

  • bad
  • issues
  • good
  • great
  • exceptional
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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good luck convincing HR, or any of the assholes in corporate.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The only two ratings that matter are 5 and 1.

5 = Met expectations

1 = Bad

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[–] arin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

The out of 10 is the worst. People rate okay at a 7 and good at 8

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is consistent with US grading scales where 70% is a C and 80% is a B.

It is stupid, but it tracks.

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[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 13 points 1 week ago

It always seems like, for most people, the middle three stars might as well not exist. Was it acceptable? Five stars. Do I want to complain? One star. There is no in-between.

The lower scheme is how I rate media, for service it's unfortunately the upper one because I don't want to fuck anybody over who's just doing their job.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

No I had emotional bad time and so that means 1 star always 😡

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Big corp has 10 ratings, and anything under 9 is deemed failure.

[–] TheGuyTM3@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think old and current newgrounds rating give a pretty clear representation of what each star mean.

It's old tho.

I seem to remember at one point, a 0 rating said "DIE IN A FIRE"

Maybe that was the scale for music?

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

We tried this though. "C" stopped being an average grade and therefore "okay", a long time ago.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I have a very similar system only from a subjective personal angle:

  1. I hated it
  2. I didn't like it
  3. It was fine
  4. I really liked it
  5. I loved it

So most get 3, some get 2 or 4, only the few special ones get 1 or 5.

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[–] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

Absolutely right! To somehow make sense of the current system, I tried to do statistics of reviews and see how a product or a business fairs in comparison to equivalent products or nearby businesses. The problem is that now there are so many fake reviews in addition to unhelpful human review.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

A few times in my life I encountered a system where 1 is labled "Satisfactory" or something similar and 5 is "Perfect" or similar.

In those cases I either refuse to rate or rate a 1 no matter how it went.

I think the system should always be so that 1 is absolute dog shit, 3 is no complaints, 5 is exceptional

I hate that 5 is anywhere from "just okay" to "amazingly exceptional" and you just can't know which it is

[–] drath@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is working as intended, though. In most cases, nobody cares how stoked you are about the product, people mostly care which flaws the product has. With a target average of, say, 4.5, the 5-star system gives you options to give +0.5 stars all the way down to -3.5, giving negative reviews significantly more weight.

relevant xkcd

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why are 0 stars not included?

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