"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
Rude? No it's not. I know of only 2 people who consider it rude, and they're both assholes.
I consider it rude to present generative AI output as if it were a legitimate human creation. I consider it rude to train AI on works whose authors didn't give that permission, and then sell that output or use it in any commercial way.
I am also massively against the anti-human little nazi machines that encourage kids to kill themselves. I'm not sure how people are so supportive of them, but it's very sad to see so many grown adults make excuses to defend their imaginary spouses and robot yes-men that they have to pay for.
Yes and no. When became it okay to stop thinking for yourself and blindly follow AI advice or internet advice in general became OK? Don't get me wrong, I'm still no fan of AI, but nothing discharges one from thinking for yourself.
As if the person vulnerable enough to engage with AI has another objective source to arm them well enough to dispute the rightish sounding answers they're being provided. An AI can present cogent sounding arguments, with wrong conclusions and hallucinations, which would be undetectable by non experts.
Do you argue with your surgeon?
Yes, I do when I feel the need. He's human. He too can have a bad day. He too can have tunnel vision. It's his/her job but it's my body/life.
Because people like to hear what they want and hate difference in opinions lol
True. We all do it, even this community is a bit of an echo chamber like that, but I just don't understand how people fall for machines that are programmed to output sycophantic text.
I just don't think human brains are ready to handle the chatbots maturely. The bots are programmed to market themselves and keep you feeling positive and engaged with every single conversation, it's literally all just a massive lie to take money from us, and there are adults out there running businesses and driving cars who fall for it.
Very bleak.
This is Beautiful thank you
A new kind of life for them to enslave...
Agreed, a really well-written piece that sums up all the ills into a beautiful package of justified hate. Made me feel warm inside tbh
People get their panties in a wad when you use that H word anymore.
Perhaps you should call yourself a clanker ranker, and you rank it at a zero...
i like the cut of your jib, but are people really down on ‘hater’?
I think some people will reject criticism by calling someone a hater. Like, if you point out legitimate concerns about their favorite game or movie they'll say "you're just a hater" so they don't have to do the emotionally challenging work of considering flaws in their favored things.
We're all emotional creatures and things like the backfire effect affect us all, but some people seem exclusively emotion driven
Apparently some people are. Not myself, but some overly sensitive people apparently don't like the word 'hate' anymore.
Sigh, I grew up when my elders said 'sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me'
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so can we call them hater haters?
Yes, if you want to open up a Pandora's Box of protest anger rage.
Some people dislike the very words that express their own attitude towards life. Isn't it ironic?...
Well hate is to strong for me, but so far I think it's hyped, not helpful and mostly used as an excuse to gather all data the want (and even all that they don't want)
I feel like most people who hate AI really hate the dipshits who monopolized the sector and have been blowing it like a balloon, fooling oaf CEOs and destroying people's livelihood in exchange of profit.
AGI research, if it achieves its end goals, can help us also learn a lot of things about consciousness, creativity, feelings, mental diseases etc etc (along with a horde of ethical problems too...). Moreover if AI was properly used for benefit of humanity to ease the burden of mundane tasks and give people more time for their life and hobbies, it could be quite beneficial. But again we are living in a generation of power hungry, mentally deranged, soulless dipshit CEOs, shareholders and politicians. So maybe some civilization that comes later will make better use of it (provided we don't autodestruct).
I think the search for a perfect slave is kinda disgusting. I think llms are a bad technology made in an evil way. I think pretending computers can speak is an insult to personhood, and that creating tools to generate mediocrity at scale is anti-human.
Some technologies are just bad and we should not make them.
Why do you mod this subreddit
Yea fully conscious AGIs obviously shouldn't be used for that purpose, that is not different from slavery. Whether or not it could be researched ethically is even not sure. Doesn't mean we should stop thinking about it though.
I am thinking more like if there ever was an energy efficient version of the LLMs today, it could in principal be beneficial if they were used to deal with mundane tasks, reducing work times while keeping the same workforce and salary. We all know it is hard to push things that way because soon as there is some tech that is capable of automated work, CEOs, and shareholders will insist on reducing the workforce to increase profits. So for non general AI to be useful to humanity, we obviously need some sort of social reform along with it too. Which does make it very hard to turn the net negative effects of current AI tech to positive. But this also does not make non general AI research inherently evil. Evil people will almost always try to monopolize on new tech to increase their profits at the cost of destroying other people's livelihoods. One can categorize even advances in computer tech or dedicated software in the same bucket.
As to the question of moderation, I was actually added to the mod list without asking for it. Happy to be removed as I am not a very active mod.
Please clarify, are you a person who hates AI, or an AI designed to hate?