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[–] Loss@sh.itjust.works 90 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh no, if only California were the fifth largest economy in the world and were already helping fund FireAid, a charity concert for those affected.

Oh wait. Out of all 50 states, California could fund FEMA by itself without raising taxes by any noticable amount.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Loss@sh.itjust.works 53 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 81 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

If that's the federal governments response to an emergency in their state ..... why would the state want to stay inside the union?

The federal government wants the benefits of the union but they don't want to help you.

People will start thinking of leaving and just work as a country on their own if they're treated like this.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 45 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Um. That's what they want.

They want the US to balkanize.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 21 points 4 weeks ago

It was going to happen sooner or later, I'm just glad I got out of Texas before it started.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I am fine with California seceding.

Or the entire western seaboard becoming a new Canadian province.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

Canada isn't going to annex California. It would nearly double their population and completely upend their politics. It would also be a logistical nightmare.

Calexit though... Some people are starting to warm to the idea.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Hell, at this point I'd say give us back to Mexico. At least they have a cool president.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 67 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

Pretty sure California sends more funds to the federal government than they receive every year... Would be a shame if they just didn't do the back and forth and kept their funds to use as they see for instead.

I'm sure States like Alabama wouldn't miss that California tax revenue making it's way to them at all.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Calexit is approved for signature gathering. Trump might just push California right out.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Can Oregon join? Maybe Washington too.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 weeks ago

NY/VT/CT etc are fairly democratic and could likely form a coalition.
Anywhere else, fight or move. You're political refugees now.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm here for Oregone and Washingtoodaloo.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

I'd like to see Colorado in that mix.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 weeks ago

I’m sure States like Alabama wouldn’t miss that California tax revenue making it’s way to them at all.

Of course not. They're strongly against socialist policies like that.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, but to do this individual Californians would all have to stop paying federal income taxes.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

No they would need to pay them into bonds to comply with the Spirit of the law but not the letter of the law. When the federal government represents California again the bonds can be released.

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[–] Blade9732@lemmy.world 47 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Hmmm. Sounds like if California can't get aid from the federal government, then they will just have to use their own money. I would suggest the comptroller to order all federal tax money in the state sent to Sacramento for use as disaster relief. They can't prosecute 40 million people not paying taxes.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 13 points 4 weeks ago

They are taking about eliminating income tax, so it could be a nice headstart.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 33 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Maybe California should halt exports of goods or services unless Trump delivers wildfire aid

[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 33 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

“I want to see two things in Los Angeles: Voter ID so that the people have a chance to vote. And I want to see the water be released and come down into Los Angeles and throughout the state. Those are the two things. After that, I will be the greatest president that California ever has ever seen,” he said

California requires state or federal id when registering to vote and when voting for the first time in person. They recently banned cities and districts from making additional requirements.

Los Angeles primarily gets its water from three main sources: the Owens River, Northern California, and the Colorado River, along with local groundwater. Approximately 57% of the region's water supply is imported, while groundwater accounts for about 34% of the total supply.

As a former los angeleno, I have always been proud of the changes they've made to conserve water in homes and business over the last few decades and I don't believe most people living there expect to receive more water from outside the region as the climate worsens. But then, I don't own any golf courses

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't think of the golf course angle. Lol. Trump just demanded a ban on golfing. We should put the word out!

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[–] comador@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Trump Translation: Fuck California.

California Responds: Trump, you're an idiot.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago

California secession starting to look real attractive. Why pay for red state welfare when the feds won't return the favor?

All I'll say is that if somebody shows up at my door asking me to sign a petition to get it on a ballot, they'd get my John Hancock.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

If Trump gets Luigi'd it will be because of something like this.

Some hardcore Trump voter in California or similar is going to get the shaft and become dangerous. Its only a matter of time... might not even be from a blue state considering how vastly he is fucking everything up.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
  1. Trump disbands FEMA
  2. A category 5 hurricane clobbers Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, etc.
  3. The states receive no federal aid.
[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's not how it's gonna go. The aid will require a tribute most of which will be batshit insane laws. Want federal aid? Marijuana is criminalized again. Want federal aid? Abortion is illegal in that state. It will be another club used to bludgeon the American public.

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[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He almost got Luigi'd, remember. A couple of inches...that was it. Imagine how different it would've been...

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

For someone who wants to "expand" American territory, he's doing a pretty good job at motivating states to secede.

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[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Going after the migrant workers in California agriculture is designed to cripple the state's economy.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

The raids were only in blue states/cities. Straight-up retribution or attacking the economy of those who voted against him. Not raiding any red state cities is just as telling.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 weeks ago

the nitwit probably thinks sb1174 'banned' voter id (or rather, was told by a different nitwit that it did). it didn't. it banned local jurisdictions from making-up their own local 'voter id' rules so the state didn't end up with dozens or more different ones depending on where you were. it did not affect the id requirement to register to vote.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

The qons act just like comic-book villains. This is demonic stuff.

[–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Isn't California on its own somewhere in like the top 10 global economies? Aren't they partially funding a lot of shit in red states? Seems like a lot of leverage to me. If the government won't help you with disasters like this, is there incentive any longer to keep paying into it? Use the money to fund your own disaster aid and FEMA equivalent instead.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's the 4th largest economy in the world.

The economy of the State of California is the largest in the United States, with a $4.080 trillion gross state product (GSP) as of 2024. It is the largest sub-national economy in the world. If California were a nation it would rank in terms of nominal GDP as the List of countries by GDP World's fourth largest economy, behind Germany (4.71 trillion)

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

This is a huge part of why the qons are so very hateful toward Cali - they are deeply jealous.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

Blackmailing Ferengi Clown Elected President.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

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